So, how exactly does the numbering on entries work?

[conuly]

I know it's not consecutive (entry 10 is not followed by entry 11) but that it does go in some sort of order (entry 10 is always followed by an entry numbered greater than 10, even if that number isn't 11), so.... how does it work, exactly? And why couldn't it just be consecutive?

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[feasel.livejournal.com]

I've wondered that before, myself. It's really weird. oO

just a guess

[farraige.livejournal.com]

I always understood that the numbering worked not for your specific entry, but rather for the number of entries produced within LJ; the reasonable question is that why do we still have six-digit numbers when the amount of users outnumbers this greatly: well, it could be to do with clusters which you're hosted on, I suppose.

Re: just a guess

[conuly]

You're incorrect, though, and you can test this yourself by creating a new account and posting an entry. The number won't be a six digit number, it'll be a 4 digit one.

Re: just a guess

[rho]

It used to work like that, years ago, but I think it changed to the per-journal form towards the end of 2002. But you can still use the old URL format for old entries, at least, so you get things like http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=10000000

[rho]

There are two types of itemid. If I'm remembering rightly (and it's possible that I'm not, though the drift is definitely right), the first of these is the jitemid. This is what tends to get used internally most of the time, and this is just sequential numbers. Then there's the ditemid, which is what goes into the URL of the entry. This is given by (jitemid * 255) + RAND, where RAND is a random number between 0 and 254. It's not sequential because Brad is generally distrustful of sequential things, where you can just type it into your browser's address bar. I'm not entirely sure if there was any particular reason not to make ditemids consecutive, though.

[phoenixdreaming.livejournal.com]

*nods* I knew it was something like this, and was trying to think how to explain it. As ever, the reason I know about it is style-related. As far as I'm aware, it's not possible to get the jitemid directly in S2 (unlike in S1 -- see pthalogreen's friends page); instead you have to get it by dividing the ditemid by 256 (I think?) and ignoring the remainder. I haven't yet used this, though I've been meaning to try it out; I saw it mentioned in a post in a style comm, probably s2styles.

[feasel.livejournal.com]

I've wondered that before, myself. It's really weird. oO

just a guess

[farraige.livejournal.com]

I always understood that the numbering worked not for your specific entry, but rather for the number of entries produced within LJ; the reasonable question is that why do we still have six-digit numbers when the amount of users outnumbers this greatly: well, it could be to do with clusters which you're hosted on, I suppose.

Re: just a guess

[conuly]

You're incorrect, though, and you can test this yourself by creating a new account and posting an entry. The number won't be a six digit number, it'll be a 4 digit one.

Re: just a guess

[rho]

It used to work like that, years ago, but I think it changed to the per-journal form towards the end of 2002. But you can still use the old URL format for old entries, at least, so you get things like http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=10000000

[rho]

There are two types of itemid. If I'm remembering rightly (and it's possible that I'm not, though the drift is definitely right), the first of these is the jitemid. This is what tends to get used internally most of the time, and this is just sequential numbers. Then there's the ditemid, which is what goes into the URL of the entry. This is given by (jitemid * 255) + RAND, where RAND is a random number between 0 and 254. It's not sequential because Brad is generally distrustful of sequential things, where you can just type it into your browser's address bar. I'm not entirely sure if there was any particular reason not to make ditemids consecutive, though.

[phoenixdreaming.livejournal.com]

*nods* I knew it was something like this, and was trying to think how to explain it. As ever, the reason I know about it is style-related. As far as I'm aware, it's not possible to get the jitemid directly in S2 (unlike in S1 -- see pthalogreen's friends page); instead you have to get it by dividing the ditemid by 256 (I think?) and ignoring the remainder. I haven't yet used this, though I've been meaning to try it out; I saw it mentioned in a post in a style comm, probably s2styles.