And two links for Jenn, courtesy of [personal profile] emmagrant01

Apr. 7th, 2005 01:40 pm
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They're actually the same link. Or very much related, anyway. I'm rather disappointed that she didn't comment on the tiger cubs one....

Incidentally, did you know that Friskies is a subsidiary of Nestle? I did *not* know this. Now I do. Yay me?

Date: 2005-04-07 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moggymania.livejournal.com
"Incidentally, did you know that Friskies is a subsidiary of Nestle? I did *not* know this. Now I do. Yay me?"

Yep... Most of the larger brands are subsidiaries of major food companies -- General Mills, Nestle, etc. The pet division is used as a method of getting rid of the byproducts produced in engineering the human products while still making money, that they'd otherwise have to pay to dump somewhere.

Date: 2005-04-07 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
My mom bought Nestle bottled water from Sam's Club. There's so much wrong with that it's not even worth analyzing.

When I politely asked her not to buy Nestle stuff, she looked at me and laughed. I think she mumbled "hippie" under her breath, which is weird because I am so far from a hippie. In practice, anyway. Morally, I guess I am a hippy...

Sorry, rambly. Just woke upy.

Date: 2005-04-07 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I really don't understand the anti-breast feeding fuss. What possible more appropriate location is there to breastfeed a child than an eating establishment? You're eating, other people are eating, the child is eating.

My sister recently commented about how: name a location, and I've breastfed there. Zoo, yup. Eiffel tower, yup. etc. She's traveled a lot and has two kids, so she's ended up breastfeeding them almost everywhere.

Breastfeeding is also incredibly commonly depicted in art. Because there are countless madonna with child or other religious figures as babies breastfeeding in countless works of art. Baby and child is one of the most common themes. Probably because it's also such a huge part of life.

Date: 2005-04-07 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com

I really don't understand the anti-breast feeding fuss. What possible more appropriate location is there to breastfeed a child than an eating establishment? You're eating, other people are eating, the child is eating.


Frankly, the presence of young children where I'm eating tends to spoil my dinner anyhow, because I'm just waiting for one to start screaming or running around or throwing things or emitting inconvenient bodily fluids, and I'm just waiting for the parents to either ignore it or may 'aww, isn't that cute' noises while their spawn act like untamed, disease animals.

Possibly working in a restaurant and having to clean up after those kind of people has made me bitter. (My parents were far from exemplary -- really, they should both have been in jail by the time I was five -- but even they had enough shame not to take me or my sister out like that until we could behave indoors, and not to encourage us when we didn't.)

But not wanting breastfeeding in a restaurant sounds more like it's about "OMG I CANNOT SEE TEH TITTEHS MY EYEEEEEEES!" than it is about "take that kid elsewhere, please." Seriously, people. They're breasts. Nipples. Mammary glands. We all got up close and personal to them for at least the first few days of life. You'd think we'd've gotten over the novelty back then.

Date: 2005-04-07 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I do disapprove of parents who do that. I can completely understand that sentiment. But the baby who is breastfeeding probably isn't yelling, screaming, making a fuss, or otherwise being obnoxious.

I believe that you should try to take your children into situations you think they can handle appropriately (don't take them to a movie if they can't keep quiet during it, wait til they're older, etc.) and removing them if they turn out to be unable to handle something you thought they could.

But as you said, that doesn't seem to be the breastfeeding argument.

Date: 2005-04-07 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com
Incidentally, did you know that Friskies is a subsidiary of Nestle?

And the products are about as healthful for your pet as those of the parent company.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com
There's a Nestle and Purina plant here. I always wonder if they make chocolate covered dog food. :P

Date: 2005-04-09 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
but connie, KMR is just SOOO much better for the kittens, didn't you know that? *sighs* the ignorence...^_^ *seeps evilness*

Date: 2005-04-07 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moggymania.livejournal.com
"Incidentally, did you know that Friskies is a subsidiary of Nestle? I did *not* know this. Now I do. Yay me?"

Yep... Most of the larger brands are subsidiaries of major food companies -- General Mills, Nestle, etc. The pet division is used as a method of getting rid of the byproducts produced in engineering the human products while still making money, that they'd otherwise have to pay to dump somewhere.

Date: 2005-04-07 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
My mom bought Nestle bottled water from Sam's Club. There's so much wrong with that it's not even worth analyzing.

When I politely asked her not to buy Nestle stuff, she looked at me and laughed. I think she mumbled "hippie" under her breath, which is weird because I am so far from a hippie. In practice, anyway. Morally, I guess I am a hippy...

Sorry, rambly. Just woke upy.

Date: 2005-04-07 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I really don't understand the anti-breast feeding fuss. What possible more appropriate location is there to breastfeed a child than an eating establishment? You're eating, other people are eating, the child is eating.

My sister recently commented about how: name a location, and I've breastfed there. Zoo, yup. Eiffel tower, yup. etc. She's traveled a lot and has two kids, so she's ended up breastfeeding them almost everywhere.

Breastfeeding is also incredibly commonly depicted in art. Because there are countless madonna with child or other religious figures as babies breastfeeding in countless works of art. Baby and child is one of the most common themes. Probably because it's also such a huge part of life.

Date: 2005-04-07 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com

I really don't understand the anti-breast feeding fuss. What possible more appropriate location is there to breastfeed a child than an eating establishment? You're eating, other people are eating, the child is eating.


Frankly, the presence of young children where I'm eating tends to spoil my dinner anyhow, because I'm just waiting for one to start screaming or running around or throwing things or emitting inconvenient bodily fluids, and I'm just waiting for the parents to either ignore it or may 'aww, isn't that cute' noises while their spawn act like untamed, disease animals.

Possibly working in a restaurant and having to clean up after those kind of people has made me bitter. (My parents were far from exemplary -- really, they should both have been in jail by the time I was five -- but even they had enough shame not to take me or my sister out like that until we could behave indoors, and not to encourage us when we didn't.)

But not wanting breastfeeding in a restaurant sounds more like it's about "OMG I CANNOT SEE TEH TITTEHS MY EYEEEEEEES!" than it is about "take that kid elsewhere, please." Seriously, people. They're breasts. Nipples. Mammary glands. We all got up close and personal to them for at least the first few days of life. You'd think we'd've gotten over the novelty back then.

Date: 2005-04-07 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I do disapprove of parents who do that. I can completely understand that sentiment. But the baby who is breastfeeding probably isn't yelling, screaming, making a fuss, or otherwise being obnoxious.

I believe that you should try to take your children into situations you think they can handle appropriately (don't take them to a movie if they can't keep quiet during it, wait til they're older, etc.) and removing them if they turn out to be unable to handle something you thought they could.

But as you said, that doesn't seem to be the breastfeeding argument.

Date: 2005-04-07 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azarias.livejournal.com
Incidentally, did you know that Friskies is a subsidiary of Nestle?

And the products are about as healthful for your pet as those of the parent company.

Date: 2005-04-07 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com
There's a Nestle and Purina plant here. I always wonder if they make chocolate covered dog food. :P

Date: 2005-04-09 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
but connie, KMR is just SOOO much better for the kittens, didn't you know that? *sighs* the ignorence...^_^ *seeps evilness*

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