Have I told you all lately why
Nov. 14th, 2004 12:47 pmthis sort of shit just isn't funny?
It wasn't funny when it started, and it sure as hell isn't funny now, years after the fact.
Find a new joke.
One that's relevant.
Hell, I'll even repeat my list.
Ways we know Bush is stupid:
His foreign policy is non-existant
He thinks people believe his lies (well....)
He thinks abstinence-only education works
Etc.
Things which DO NOT prove his stupidity:
He speaks with an accent (nuculer, al quader)
He has problems speaking (this could be a learning disability or a simple problem of poor verbal performance. We all do that)
He's clumsy (oh wow. He fell off a bike! He's an idiot! Along with everybody else who can't ride a bike! LOLOL!!!!11111)
We can find a funny picture that makes him look like a chimp (just stop insulting our friend, the chimp.)
See the difference?
It wasn't funny when it started, and it sure as hell isn't funny now, years after the fact.
Find a new joke.
One that's relevant.
Hell, I'll even repeat my list.
Ways we know Bush is stupid:
His foreign policy is non-existant
He thinks people believe his lies (well....)
He thinks abstinence-only education works
Etc.
Things which DO NOT prove his stupidity:
He speaks with an accent (nuculer, al quader)
He has problems speaking (this could be a learning disability or a simple problem of poor verbal performance. We all do that)
He's clumsy (oh wow. He fell off a bike! He's an idiot! Along with everybody else who can't ride a bike! LOLOL!!!!11111)
We can find a funny picture that makes him look like a chimp (just stop insulting our friend, the chimp.)
See the difference?
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Date: 2004-11-14 08:21 pm (UTC)She's (possibly) running for local office in order to help oversee voting to make sure it goes properly. (Which I think she'd be good at: She's ethical, honest, informed about the issues, and IIRC she grew up in an area where voter fraud was common. Politics has been her main overriding area of interest since the age of around 12. She's threatened to run for office as an "honest politician" for a long time now, but I think now she's serious.)
*nosynosy* what's wrong with your speech?
I'm also autistic, and I guess I wasn't built for speech. It's a long complicated story but the short version is that I learned the physical act of speech separately from communication and they became even more separate to the point of uselessness over time. (I think it's a combination of the multitasking needed and the difficulty of some of the component parts on their own, but I don't really know.) Summed up pretty well in the Tito Mukhopadhyay quote, "Muteness is better than distortion."
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Date: 2004-11-14 09:17 pm (UTC)At what point were you taught to write/read even though you weren't speaking? Are "professionals" who work with Autistic children taught that sometimes it's a good idea to go straight to writing/reading without the verbal lanugage communication, or is your case non-standard? (I'm studying speech pathology in college, and I find linguistics and language in general to be really interesting.) Feel free to ignore me if you'd rather not go into any details. :)
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Date: 2004-11-14 11:40 pm (UTC)While I did not experience precisely the same pattern of knowing/not-knowing that this person did, and disagree with xem on a few points in the article, you might find the following article interesting: Bridging the Gaps: An Inside-Out View of Autism (http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/bridging.htm). It at least does as good a job as any of removing those assumptions, but even so people who've read it often still have trouble grasping what those "gaps" mean. I'm a little hesitant to throw the following article at you (because if you follow the assumptions most people associate with the words in it, you might come up with some conclusions that don't follow about my life), but it deals with some of the issues of internal vs. external perception stuff as well as what finally worked as far as communication goes (although it's not something a non-autistic person or even some autistic people would have necessarily been able to do for me): Past, Present, and Future (http://www.autistics.org/library/time.html).
My life also has some similarities (although some differences, since people are individuals) to what is described in the following lecture by an autistic person, when xe finally gets to the part about people who figured out the point of communication fairly late (and upon exposure to other autistic people), or who developed communication and speech and reading and so forth separately: http://144.92.102.54/documents/Sinclaire%20Lecture.mp3
Or you could go look through the entire sample course, which I'd strongly recommend:
http://144.92.102.54/assignments.html
It's by a professional (course website says she's an internationally known researcher in cognition and language) and a mother of an autistic boy, and she actually uses tons of autistic people's writing and speeches as legitimate course material. One thing to beware of in the speeches is a lot of them (not all) tend toward the canned "self-narrating zoo exhibit" speeches that end up sounding very similar after you've heard two or three. (This is not the fault of the people doing them necessarily; that's what the ASA likes and that's where she got most of the speeches.)
Sorry for not being more personal about it, but my language programs seem trained on other topics right now (which is good, because I've been trying to point it toward politics and away from other things, and it's moving faster than usual in that direction).
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Date: 2004-11-15 01:42 pm (UTC)Unfortunately, I don't have time at the moment to listen to an audio presentation, but I'll keep it in mind for the future.
Thanks again. :)
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Date: 2004-11-15 09:41 am (UTC)I get it now. well, viva la internet. unless, off course, it's viva le internet. is the internet male or female?