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there are a surprising number of kids who were raised as assassins, and for some reason the comics world thinks that growing up language deprived will make you really good at that. (I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this is actually the least plausible origin story, and I think we all know how implausible that makes it. Yes, even less plausible than that one.)

Anyway, after hearing this I suggested to Eva that they all ought to form a crossover discussion group.

Eva: None of them talk!
Me: Hence the need for a group.

She's not convinced.

Date: 2019-05-08 03:23 am (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Pre-Serum Steve Rogers, shirt and suspenders (Sad Steve)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Tropes, probable mimicry of a resonating fic and off to the races.

The Sentinel has some very interesting fanfic portrayals, even though one character is finely boned and another is a bit of a tank (not the ones you'd expect.)

I admit I let Bucky get a touch nonverbal when things are rough. Until he finds a punchline.

Isn't the 'unused' a trope that started after the trailer/scene link from Bucky in the whatever that industrial machine was (I've not seen CA:CW but the once and I couldn't quite track where the questioning about which Bucky 'fit'.) hit?

Date: 2019-05-08 02:26 pm (UTC)
baronjanus: I was searching for the answer, it turns out it's rock and roll. Hugh Dillon Works Well With Others (marvel - the sound of music)
From: [personal profile] baronjanus
Re Sentinel: SHORT GUY CAN BE STURDY

Re Bucky: Probably mimicry, yeah. I know fanfic is to fix and sometimes replace canon, but that particular speechless trope serves nothing and you have to wonder, because everyone loves that "who the hell" line, and the "but I knew him" line, but they manage to block out both entirely in their portrayal of his speech pattern.

PTSD reaction ("when things get rough") is a different thing. You can fall silent with panic or disassociation. Just when it's somehow a constant trait that it's weird. It's also reasonable that he's a quiet guy who isn't very chatty, he's been through a lot, but from that to "can't answer a single thing except in report form" is a looong way to go.

The unused stuff started immediately after WS, may have something to do with Stan's choice of vocal range there, or just people loving to take the (already horrifying) abuse shown on-screen and run wild to faraway places with it. When he was stuck with his arm in that machine, he spoke quite fluently about his memories. If I recall correctly.

Hi! hi there. Nice to meet you :)

Date: 2019-05-08 05:06 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: liz shaw in disbelief (science)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Nice to meet you!

In the movie, Bucky is very chatty and pulling up Sarah and so on, in that scene. But iirc it was the grunting and stuff that was making the rounds pre-movie.

Basically, I let the guys sometimes just sit in silent camaraderie, and then they smack talk about something they're fairly sure is not a bad place.

I'd have less trouble with CA:CW if Bucky and Steve actually talked instead of deflected.

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