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It wasn't a half-bad movie, though it was awfully long.

Because I've read the books, a lot of what I'm going to say has to do with the differences between the books and the movie. After thinking it over, I think for the most part the reason behind most of the differences is because, watching the movie, there is no voiceover. The books, as you know, are filled with Katniss making cynically snarky little commentary on every aspect of her life.

This serves two purposes. First of all, her attitude helps lighten the fact that it's all a bunch of child-killing (even if most of those kids are annoying teenagers) and secondly, it provides lots and lots of nifty exposition in easy-to-manage chunks! (Of course, some people can't stand all the whining, which is a perfectly valid viewpoint. Me, I think as a teenage girl in a dystopia she's entitled to a little whining, but I can understand if you don't want to read it.)

Dropping it isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does mean that there are a lot of scenes in the book that simply won't make sense because we don't have the context. And if the context can't be provided in another way, it makes sense to drop those scenes altogether. The rest of the cut scenes probably had more to do with the movie's length than anything else. As it is, it was a very long movie.

There are a lot of different lists of changes between book and movie online. The most comprehensive is probably the one at the wiki, but they don't give any commentary and, frankly, even by the standards of group projects it's pretty badly designed. The book and movie lists aren't aligned neatly, so that by a few entries down they don't match up at ALL; they are, as noted, in no particular order, so it's hard to find out if a particular change is mentioned; and as a result of the first two reasons several scenes are mentioned twice. Sheesh.

But anyway, my entry is probably a little redundant, but that's all right because I want to type it anyway. I'll only focus on what caught my attention, instead of trying to be totally comprehensive.

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There also were some additions to the movie, and on the whole I liked them.

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On the whole, I think the movie wasn't that bad. I do prefer the book, but I usually prefer the book, so that's no surprise.

A few more, non-spoilery thoughts about watching the movie in a theater:

1. There was an ad for IE prior to the movie. God, Microsoft must find that humiliating to have to advertise their product!

2. I was stuck sitting in a group of gigglers who apparently have no patience for love triangles. Fair enough, but giggling every time there was a Gale reaction shot was a bit much.

3. I was also sitting directly in front of some commenters. Now, I'm all for snarky commentary during a movie, but it has to be interesting. If all you're doing is saying things like "Oh no. Oh no. Oh no" you can do us a favor and shut up, shut up, shut up. And as for the person who decided Rue's death was THE time to start rummaging through her popcorn bag? I don't even know what to SAY to that.

4. Apparently they're coming out with Titanic in 3D in April, presumably to coincide with the anniversary of the crash. Do we really need this?

5. Also, do we really need a new Spiderman origin-story film? REALLY?
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http://www.cracked.com/article_19350_6-famously-terrible-movies-that-were-almost-awesome_p2.html

Obviously, it's cracked.com, so I'm just going to quote the relevant passage at you:

Nottingham would've been the single most original Robin Hood movie in history. The original script (written by Ethan Reiff and Cyrus Voris) so excited studios when it turned up in 2007 that it became the subject of a fierce bidding war (Universal wound up paying freaking $1.5 million for it). It was a totally different take on the story -- the Sheriff of Nottingham is the main character and protagonist. Shit gets real once the sheriff investigates a string of grisly murders in the area. The sheriff then pursues an assholish Robin Hood (Russell Crowe) for the crimes only to find out that Robin, while a dickhead, was actually being framed.

The film was to climax with an epic siege of the city of Nottingham between Prince John and King Richard, all while the Sheriff tries to discover the identity of the real killer using 12th century detective techniques (Reiff is a history buff and researched how actual killings in that era were investigated).

Then, director Ridley Scott came on board and said, "What is this shit? We're making a Robin Hood movie! Get all that standard Robin Hood stuff back in there. That's what everybody wants to see." The movie was renamed Robin Hood and lots more scenes with people shooting bows and arrows were added. A few rewrites later, very little of the original screenplay remained. Today, Nottingham is a cautionary tale for every young, aspiring screenwriter out there. It doesn't matter what you write: the director and the star will decide what makes it onto the screen.


That really *would* have been a good movie. I want to see that movie.

See, it's information like this that makes me really long for parallel universes. Sure, you could hop from world to world picking up cool technology, restoring our ecosystem by bringing back examples of species that are extinct here but aren't there, stealing resources, and generally helping humanity (or, again, humanity here, in the REAL world) - but wouldn't it be even cooler if you could hop from world to world and see all the movies and read all the books that didn't end up here for some reason? Think about it!
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There's this group that wants you to boycott this movie because they OMG cast Thor as white, and that's SO WRONG because THOR was NORSE and therefore WHITE, and I guess I can see that, yeah (although the only Thor I've ever met in real life was a little boy with an Icelandic mother and an African-American father, so there you go), but they're ignoring the much greater issue here.

In their quest for historical accuracy they seem to have forgotten something much more important than petty issues of race: VIKINGS DIDN'T WEAR HORNS ON THEIR HELMETS! Why would they do something so stupid? That's like giving your enemy a great handle to grab! But this group is okay with dumb and ahistorical fashion choices that make Thor and the Vikings look like twits, just so long as they're all white twits, is that it?

That's just wrong.
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Now, prior to seeing this movie, I'd read a bit about it, and truthfully, what I read wasn't all that complimentary. Even the language (or, at least, the process of making it) didn't really escape this scrutiny. (And on the subject of language, I'm impressed that they went through all the effort of conlanging up a whole language and making the actors learn it, but meanwhile, why did the Na'vi consistently pronounced "Sully" as "Sooly"? That's a mispronunciation I'd expect from somebody who had seen the word written, but not somebody whose first (and possibly only) association with the word was hearing it spoken. Those two phonemes aren't that similar, are they?)

Well, apparently the guy I went to see it with had not read all I'd read beforehand, and neither was he clued into the fact that "long braid down the back +/- sparse beads and/or asymmetrical feathers = INJUNS! Native Americans! So I was there the second he figured it out. "Wait - they're supposed to be Indians! That's not... that's not right!"

(If those braids had been a little more cornrow-y, they would clearly have been Africans, and if we'd heard a little more of that random didgeridoo that was in one of the background music bits I could've called them Australians... but (gratuitous, non-alien Western musical scales aside) I can't blame them for that one, the didgeridoo is a pretty awesome instrument.)

So, now, what did I think of the movie? Well, I took a day or so to think about it. And then I thought, before I posted, I'd head over to TVTropes and see what they have to say. (And that sucked up my entire day, yes, yes, when will I learn?) And boy, do they have a lot to say on the subject! Holy FUCK!

So I'm gonna take some parts and talk about them, but I'm not tackling the whole thing. That *is* what TVTropes is there for.

Read more... )

So, basically? It's a so-so movie with great imagery. It has some troublesome aspects (seriously), but they're mostly troublesome in the context of... well, everything else that shares those aspects. This wouldn't be so bad if the story itself weren't largely formulaic. But it is.

So I saw it once, liked it well enough once I turned my brain off, and don't intend to see it again any time soon. If you aren't spending your life on TVTropes you might like it more.
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I've seen it in movies (Monsters, Inc. comes to mind) and on TV, and even in books.

I really hate when we have a pre-verbal child who communicates amazingly well with neat, accurate pictures.

Let's clear this up once and for all. If you have a pre-verbal child, and they're at an age where being pre-verbal is expected (once they pass that, all bets are off, of course), chances are that their "art" is pretty damn abstract. More like what the rest of us would call "scribbles". Sure, they may *say* it's a flower, if you prompt them into labeling it at all, but it could just as easily be a truck and nobody would know the difference. (Heck, at that age, you can easily ask them "What is that?" and get the answer "I don't know" or ask "Is that a flower?" and then, after being told "yes" go "I thought it was a truck!" and hear them say "Oh, it is a truck". There you go.)

Even when they start doing representational art (and I'm assured by people who know more about this than I do that the early age for this is three, at which point most kids are talking in sentences, even if nobody outside their family understands them), they're not going to draw these amazing, easy-to-recognize pictures. They're going to draw circles with lots of lines and call them spiders. Or suns. Or flowers. They'll do blocks with a few lines and dots and say they're people. Or cats. Or elephants. They'll do squiggly circles, those are hearts. Or lakes. Or clouds. Or wheels. Or the letter o. Or flowers. Or I don't know what.

So, a kid who can't talk and turns to art in frustration? Well, I won't go so far as to say it's totally impossible but... yeah, actually, it mostly is. If they can't talk, and you don't find that strange? Odds are that they can't draw either. And even if they can, you're sure as heck not gonna know what they mean when they do.

Oh, and while we're on the topic of artwork, a special note to certain parents (who, I'm sure, will have no idea I mean them):

I see you and your ilk all the time when out and about. You have to have a piece of artwork for the memory books.

Thing is? It's not your spider, or jellyfish, or paper flower. It's your toddler's.

And it's not about the product anyway, it's the process.

So when your kid isn't putting the eyes on "just right", don't correct them. When your kid doesn't want to color in the entire surface of the paper plate, but just wants to scribble on it? That's fine. Don't correct your child, and for crying out loud, stop taking the project away from your kids to do it right! Grow the fuck up already! Your kid is two, and you're already trying to thwart his/her budding creativity!

Seriously. If it's so important to you, ask the teacher and get your own damn craft stuff and do your own damn project. Maybe, if you're really nice, we can even hang it up in the window for you. Wouldn't that be fun?

Some people....

Edit: Just noting that [livejournal.com profile] feebeeglee's kids don't count in this, they're pretty exceptional. And she has a lot of kids :) so she should know! I still maintain that this sort of thing is nowhere near common enough to merit its frequency in fiction.
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Cloverfield

Let's see. Die here, die in the tunnels... oh look. Seems like it's another movie about destroying my city.

Do I ever hate that! I even turn off disasters on SimCity!

Honestly, why don't they try Walla Walla for a change? Be creative! Be novel! Besides, I've heard that it's the place people enjoy so much, they decided to name it more than once. Or... something like that, anyway.
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So now I'm using it, and revelance be damned!

Saw Ratatouille today. Good movie. Scared Ana at the beginning, though - there were several minutes of a chase scene with a gun and a frantic water escape, which I thought was a bit much, not just for her tolerance but also for the story. It wasn't that interesting, even, and right at the start, too...! Will see it again, with my mom. She ought to have come.
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This will either be Very Very Good, or Very Very Bad.

In favor: Narnia movie is said to rock. I'm still debating where my ethics lie, and my finances.
Against: Cheaper by the Dozen sucked, and was a travesty. A travesty, I say.

Oh dear.
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1. I know I'm horribly behind the times, but I just want to confirm what everyone else has already said: Mandoo Bar rocks. Korean food is good. The service there is not to be believed. We'd take a few sips of water, and the glass would be refilled. As soon as we were finishing up the first thing we'd ordered, they brought the second, and when we finished that they brought the third, so we weren't trying to juggle several dishes on the table at once (we share our food when we eat out).

2. We saw War of the Worlds. I have yet to read the original by H. G. Wells, so my thoughts will be soly concerning the movie.

Duh, spoilers! )

All in all, a fun day. Of course, combined with Shade's Children... I'm going to have such bad nightmares tonight. And nobody wants to play parcheesi avec moi.

Oh, and I like this icon, but the font is starting to get to me just a little bit. It didn't when I took it... If anybody can modify...?

Edit: *giggles* On the way home, on the train, some guy came on and started playing the sax. Loudly. Badly. After a minute or so, he promised to leave if he got money. We shouldn't give in to terrorists, but I thought a dollar was well worth some peace and quiet, inasmuch as one can get that on the trains.

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