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People can't be reading this right. They simply can't. This must be an early April Fool's joke. Or yellow journalism gone astray. Or something.

*shakes head*

Three more fucking years. That's all I'm giving it. Then I'm moving, and not to fucking Atlanta. Somewhere out of this damned country. I have friends out of the country. You can just be sitting around expecting a long-term houseguest until the world goes sane again.

Date: 2005-11-12 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Oh, they're reading that right. It got press a day or two ago.

It won't stand; even if the bill is passed, it clearly contravenes earlier Supreme Court rulings.

Date: 2005-11-12 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Here's a link to an article with more information, if you're interested, but the first line pretty much says it all:

The Senate has voted to strip captured "enemy combatants" at Guántanamo Bay, Cuba, of the principal legal tool given to them last year by the Supreme Court when it allowed them to challenge their detentions in U.S. courts. (http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/11/11/news/gitmo.php)

Date: 2005-11-12 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
Look what we have. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/nov2005/stat-n03.shtml
Basically, you can be imprisoned for any reason our government sees fit in a secret location and if any of your relatives, friends or neighbours talks about your disappearance, they can receive a 5 year jail sentence.

Date: 2005-11-12 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
I wouldn't rule out Tasmania. They're usually forgotten about in these things.

Date: 2005-11-12 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
That's messed up.

Date: 2005-11-12 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I think so. Even after reading and re-reading it, I can't get even the concept to make sense to me.

I think it's not right, and the fact that that senator is from my state makes me feel faintly ill. I know he says it's to prevent "lawsuit abuse", but a significant part of me can't help but wonder if he just wants those detained to "disappear".

If someone is illegally detained, that person should have the right to contest it, period. And, I'm worried about the implications it has for, well, the "rest of us". I don't think I'm an "enemy of the state", but who knows at the rate things are going?

I think this is incoherent. Why am I not in bed? Ah, I tried.

Date: 2005-11-12 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Oh, they're reading that right. It got press a day or two ago.

It won't stand; even if the bill is passed, it clearly contravenes earlier Supreme Court rulings.

Date: 2005-11-12 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Here's a link to an article with more information, if you're interested, but the first line pretty much says it all:

The Senate has voted to strip captured "enemy combatants" at Guántanamo Bay, Cuba, of the principal legal tool given to them last year by the Supreme Court when it allowed them to challenge their detentions in U.S. courts. (http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/11/11/news/gitmo.php)

Date: 2005-11-12 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
Look what we have. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/nov2005/stat-n03.shtml
Basically, you can be imprisoned for any reason our government sees fit in a secret location and if any of your relatives, friends or neighbours talks about your disappearance, they can receive a 5 year jail sentence.

Date: 2005-11-12 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
I wouldn't rule out Tasmania. They're usually forgotten about in these things.

Date: 2005-11-12 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
That's messed up.

Date: 2005-11-12 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I think so. Even after reading and re-reading it, I can't get even the concept to make sense to me.

I think it's not right, and the fact that that senator is from my state makes me feel faintly ill. I know he says it's to prevent "lawsuit abuse", but a significant part of me can't help but wonder if he just wants those detained to "disappear".

If someone is illegally detained, that person should have the right to contest it, period. And, I'm worried about the implications it has for, well, the "rest of us". I don't think I'm an "enemy of the state", but who knows at the rate things are going?

I think this is incoherent. Why am I not in bed? Ah, I tried.

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