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Date: 2004-12-28 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com
how sad! =(

"Gracee and her older sister, 5- year-old Makaylah"

that's the closest spelling to my name that I've seen (Makalah).

Date: 2004-12-28 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
MacAelah?
(Or MacAylah, I've seen both.)

Or Mikaela!

Date: 2004-12-28 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com
heh, well I've heard people pronounce that 2 different ways "Michael with an A at the end" and "ma-kay-luh" (sorry about butchering the phonetics of that), but mine's the second pronunciation. My mom just spelled it her own way after she heard the name at the hospital while in labor, so it's unusual that I see anything similar to mine. :)

Date: 2004-12-28 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I should tell you the story about the twins: Limonjillo and Oranjillo.

...True story.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
It's not. I'm involved in it personally.

See, my mom used to volunteer at a Crisis Pregnancy center, and would occasionally take me with her since I was little and babysitter's cost money. Most of her clients that she counseled were very poor, very badly educated young women (mostly black) who had little comprehension of large chunks of the English language and VERY thick Southern accents. (She encountered one named "Female" - say it: Fuh-mah-lee - but that's another story.)

This one young lady had been seeing her for some time, and was determined to keep her baby, which, up until the last minute was thought to be a very large boy. Instead she ended up with a pair of very large boys. (YIPES.)

She came in to introduce them to my mother, who asked their names, and she proudly announces that she heard these really great names the other day, she LOVED the way they rolled off the tongue so she name her kids Limonjillo (Lemon J-ello) and Oranjillo (Orange J-ello). It took a good long time before anyone present could figure those names out. Yipes.

But it is a true story. Scary as that may seem.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
"babysitters"

~_~ Speaking of a grasp of the English language, look who's abusing apostrophes.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
I do.

I, personally, lose my temper easily with babies. This is why I stay away from them. I can't function around little children/babies that can't follow simple orders (be quiet, sit down, yanno, stuff like that).

I just have a temper problem.

While what she did was deplorable, and just stupid, I can see people getting that angry. I can get angry like that, but not to where I'm physically harming an almost-two year old.

also: POSTMCPOSTYPANTS.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
aww.

hey, forced exposure helps.

it's just that I have this inherent need for people to just do what I say. ESPECIALLY in the kitchen and by little 2-3 year olds. Triple word score when both happen at the same time.

I mean, hearing 'no!' and the variations thereof don't help my blood pressure.

So Nature pwns me (and I mean pwned.) by whapping me with migraines. Bitch.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-spyke.livejournal.com
I understand anger. I do not understand anger over something like that with a 2 year old, and taking that anger to that extreme. A woman who works with children, not being able to cope with the actions of such a young child? There should be special, cruel punishments for people who harm/kill children. I can't think of any that would do justice, but I'm sure there are those that can.

This kind of thing makes me sick to my stomach.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathchibi.livejournal.com
Special punishments for people who harm children? I don't really understand the 'child is more than the adult' mentality, since hurt is hurt, however old you are. No one deserves abuse, rape, or anything like that. No one.

But maybe I'm a cold, unfeeling bitch, I don't know. I do acknowledge that for my apparent lack of maternal intstinct for children, I won't have any. It's things like this that remind me of my desire not to want to have children. What if I did that? I'd be a monster, too.

It's a shame this sort of thing is becoming more and more common. Either that, or we're catching it more, I'm not sure. Still, poor kid.

Date: 2004-12-28 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
I think I love you.

and your icon as well.

I don't get special punishments for that sort of thing. It makes children more valuable, and therefore the everyone else less important.

yanno?

Date: 2004-12-28 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
Agreed, entirely.

Date: 2004-12-28 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
Wait, did you say you were me? I feel the exact same way. I have enough self-control to keep from harming a child, but I get frustrated far too easily to deal with kids.

Date: 2004-12-28 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
I think I love you too!

also: I got to see the art in your icon in person. It was cold, but it was worth it. :D

Date: 2004-12-28 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
ENVY. ENN-VEE.

I don't generally want to see the main tourist attractions, but God I want to see the Sistine Chapel. Have to figure out a time when the whole place won't be crammed with tourists in kneesocks and sandals...

Date: 2004-12-28 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
it was like that when I was there. ;_;

and hey! I wore jeans the entire time. and sneakers. roads are MISERABLE for flippies.

In fact, I'm weariong the pair I ripped up when I fell onto the ground in Florence. they spell it Fierenze. hee.

loud, and there were plastic seats over the actual benches on the walls. o_O.

but, there ws this wee city, on a hill (I remember walking that bugger), and it had the most...chruchy church. it was a, unpunningly meant, religious experience. I think it was to the saint De Ascici. or however you spell it. :P

Date: 2004-12-29 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
You have to wear trousers/a long skirt - it's the reason I didn't do more than wander around the outsidey bit of the Vatican. It was in the high 30s and there was no way we were making the trek all the way from the hotel (in a completely different part of Rome) in trousers.

But I suppose if you're not visiting during the formative parts of a continent-wide heatwave then having your legs covered wouldn't be so bad ;0)

And Firenze surely *ducks* I was personally disappointed, although I liked Ponte Veccio, but maybe that's partly because we managed to accidentally not go into the Uffizi (sp?) and at least if I'm going to see a style of art that doesn't interest me, I could see the famous examples. Oh, and it could be because we got the train into the city to arrive at 8am and it was in the high 30s in the shade by midday (sending us back to our place) - that also kind of overrides other memories of the city.

Date: 2004-12-29 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytalon.livejournal.com
Where was this center your mom worked at? My fiance used to help babysit for two African-American boys with those names, in Redondo Beach, CA.

Those names are up on snopes (http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.htm) but I suppose they must be valid; I trust my fiance, and I can't see why you'd lie.

Also, Conuly, didn't we have a very similar discussion in your journal a while ago?

Date: 2004-12-29 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-spyke.livejournal.com
I perhaps didn't explain that as I wanted too. I didn't mean it in the 'child is more than the adult' mentality, as I agree with you that hurt is hurt, and no one deserves to be hurt. And those who hurt others should be punished. I guess in my mind, it's just that if you were to approach me and ask me something, and I did not reply to your liking, you could attempt to shake me in the manner this woman did to this child, but I, being an adult, have a chance to defend myself (more so that a 2 year old, simply from a size perspective).

But I agree, it's either more common now, or we just hear about it more ... either way, it's a sad thing :(

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Grrr to LJ

Date: 2004-12-29 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-spyke.livejournal.com
LJ is acting up for me. That reply was to [profile] deathchibi, but I see [personal profile] conuly has already posted along those lines.
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