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The amount of misinformation contained here is scary.

It is perfectly natural to not masturbate. Some people just don't. And, of course, it's perfectly natural to masturbate, and to want to - it will not make you go blind, grow hair, or get pimples. I'm a bit wary of searching for a link to prove that a lack of masturbation isn't connected to a frequency of wet dreams (don't want to find nothing but porn!) but I'm 93% confident that I am correct in that statement.

Nobody *has* to masturbate. You won't die if you don't. It's just that most people prefer to than to not.
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Date: 2004-12-05 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
That's so stupid. I'm not a guy but I can go month's without masturbation and be fine without it. I couldent think that this wouldent be same same for males.

Date: 2004-12-05 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com
If you don't masturbate, hair will start growing from your palms...er...yeah...

Date: 2004-12-05 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-turtle-girl.livejournal.com
I thought you got hair on your palms when you do masturbate. I am confused....

LOL

Date: 2004-12-05 10:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blurrygauze.livejournal.com
I take it you don't continuously produce sperm

Date: 2004-12-05 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
No I don't. I was thinking that my input might not be relevant to the topic, but posted anyways. Maybe I shouldent done that.

Date: 2004-12-05 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_outtonight/
What about leprosy? It only makes sense...

Date: 2004-12-05 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortaine.livejournal.com
Thank goodness for [livejournal.com profile] coyotemama's comment there-- as with sperm that do not join with the egg, "unused" sperm die off within 24 hours, are absorbed into the surrounding membranes, and go through the normal excretory system for removing waste.

If one had only ejaculation as a means of getting rid of these little buggers, men would have to ejaculate at least once per day, simply to get rid of the dead ones. In fact, men would end up ejaculating multiple times per day. While there are men who do so anyway, it's not a biological necessity.

The argument on the link between masturbation and wet dreams may be true, but it has little to do with the pure biological mechanism of eliminating unwanted sperm, and more to do with gratifying a frustrated sexual drive, as you noted in your comment.

Date: 2004-12-05 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fascinoma.livejournal.com
Oh, and what's more is, people masturbate for all kinds of reasons besides being horny. It's good for relieving menstrual cramps, or helping you get to sleep.

Date: 2004-12-05 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atdelphi.livejournal.com
*ponders* From what I know (both from teaching informal sex-ed classes and from growing up with a lot of guy friends) you're mostly right. However, I'm pretty sure it's been proven that in the thick of puberty, frequency of masturbation usually has a direct correlation to frequency of wet dreams. However, once the hormonal surge levels out, sex drive becomes a personal thing.

Some men have lower sex drives that allow them to live comfortably without needing regular relief through masturbation. Conversely, some men have much higher sex drives, and may find themselves experiencing wet dreams if they break with a regular masturbation routine. It all comes down to the individual, just like in women. You're right - it's only social conditioning that tells us that men need release all the time.

Date: 2004-12-05 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
The first comment in that posting is rather stupid. However, the guys arguing that wet dreams and masturbation have a direct correlation are 100% correct. We're speaking from personal experience here (something you girls don't have). Sure, it may be true that technically/clinically speaking there's not a direct correlation. But the fact is that for the majority of the guys the majority of the time, there IS a direct correlation. Certainly that's been the case with every guy I've ever talked to about it.

I can't speak for girls - I'm not one, and very few websites even mention that girls have wetdreams. I do wish that you girls would stop trying to speak of something you know nothing about.

The "build up" theory? Maybe it's clinically incorrect - but it sure *feels* true. You can feel it building up over time, you can feel it released afterwards. And there's significantly more sperm after a week than after a day.

Date: 2004-12-05 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com
I admit that I haven't done EXTENSIVE research on it, but my understanding was that while the majority of "sex drive" urges are mental/sociological (how many times have we heard about someone wondering how "normal" they are after finding out that they masturbate less than a quarter the amount that others do?), some of the phenomena of nocturnal orgasms are produced by the fact that the nerves involved "want" to fire.

Thus accounting for the "build up" feeling, which would then have nothing to do with sperm or ejaculate either one.

Date: 2004-12-05 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
And what is it that makes the nerves "want" to fire? Are they more inclined to "want" to fire if they haven't fired in awhile? If so, that would be build up. Perhaps not build up of sperm, but a buildup of something.

Date: 2004-12-05 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com
Are they more inclined to "want" to fire if they haven't fired in awhile?

That was what I seem to recall, but I can't find the book I got it from to refresh my memory. (And you know as well as I do that Googling anything about penile nerves, orgasms and ejaculation is going to net you roughly seventeen thousand results, assaying out at fifty percent pr0n sites and forty-five percent Viagra ads, with a small but obtrusive percentage of "herbal enhancement product" listings.)

Date: 2004-12-05 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rantinan.livejournal.com
Amusingly enough, I read in new scientist that there is a significantly reduced prostrate cancer risk in males who ejeculated more frequently than those who did not.
So while the whole semen aspect seems liek a bunk, there are actual health benifits asociated with daily masturbation

Date: 2004-12-05 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
My coparent(Ken) didn't masturbate nor had any sexual urges between Des(exwife) and I.

I do think with some it depends on how they feel about themselves/the opposite sex/ the world in general.

She treated him like crap, I didn't & he's still a horny toad after me.

Date: 2004-12-05 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytalon.livejournal.com
I do wish that you girls would stop trying to speak of something you know nothing about.

Just because we don't experience ejaculation doesn't mean we know "nothing" about it. As Conuly said, some of us actually read about it, whether official studies or simply personal accounts. And some of us have been in relationships for good lengths of time--I think that sleeping with a guy for years allows me some insight into how it all works.

As I understand it, based on a scientific study I read (and my own experience), it's true for some men that when they deny themselves for a long period of time and then give in, the ejaculate tends to be greater in volume. However, that is not due to a buildup of material, as Conuly has said; it's true for women, too, that we'll often spasm harder after prolonged periods of abstinence. And when abstaining, sexual dreams (feminine wet dreams) are more common, too.

So now, perhaps, you can speak for girls, at least in a general way. Such is the wonder of communication and research.

Date: 2004-12-05 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demonkoala.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not interested in touching on the masturbation issue, sorry, but I got something else interesting.
Apparently you're very famous on the internet, or on livejournal or something. link (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/conuly) Yes...searching for something of mine, and I found there were a lot of links to you, and after a simple search...yes.

Date: 2004-12-05 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adiva_calandia
It surprises me that there isn't much info on female wet dreams. Female sexuality has become so much more open in recent years. . . . Anyway, I haven't experienced one (so far as I can tell) but I know it happens.

Date: 2004-12-05 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
That's so stupid. I'm not a guy but I can go month's without masturbation and be fine without it. I couldent think that this wouldent be same same for males.

Date: 2004-12-05 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com
If you don't masturbate, hair will start growing from your palms...er...yeah...
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