Another thing from priyatelka

[conuly]

Oh look. Abortion rates increased during Bush's term. What a surprise.

What does this tell us? Economic policy and abortion are not separate issues; they form one moral imperative. Rhetoric is hollow, mere tinkling brass, without health care, health insurance, jobs, child care, and a living wage. Pro-life in deed, not merely in word, means we need policies that provide jobs and health insurance and support for prospective mothers.

More than that, I believe the Bible has injunctions to be charitable? Rich men and heaven and camels and needles?

I'm not anti-abortion. But I am against the things that make people feel forced into aborting.

Pro-choice. It's about choice.

Comments

exactly

[scottrossi.livejournal.com]

exactly, i am pro choice as well, but i despise the fact that women are being forced into having abortions because there is no other way for them to raise a child. their funding getting cut, public assistance programs dying out, even workplace assistance withering because they don't have to give us coverage or help, is pathetic.

at my job we are considering opening a free or low cost day care, for as long as the call center is open and people need their child watched, but it is on hold depending on who wins the election from what i hear. sigh.

[robotliliput.livejournal.com]

This post echoes the very things I was thinking about last night... the fact that Richard Nixon was the very last Republican in that office who felt a "christian" obligation toward the poor. I also thought about the sickening despair one feels while living in a state of poverty, and the even more sickening sensation of knowing one is about to bring someone else into that world... it boggles the imagination.

Anti-Abortionists: If you've never lived in your car, or you've never known anyone who lived in their car, or you've never really read a book (Joyce Carol Oates has some pretty down and out characters, she'd be a good one to read) where people were that poor, what business do you have telling people how they should live their lives? That they can risk any sense of dignity they might have, asking for public assistance? (But you might take that away, too, calling for an end to "handouts".)

I don't know. I'm just tired. If Bush wins this election, I might go all Mujaheedin on his ass and strap a shitload of dynamite around my middle and go shake his hand and do the world a favor. I don't know what else to do.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

o know i am a bitch for saying it, and you'll probbaly delete it anyway...

yeah, i agree with pro-choice...

The girl chose to open her legs, right?
The girl chose to have sex right? (assuming it isn't rape...)
The girl chose to not use a better form of birth control...



How many choices should she get?

Love ya connie. delete if you muct. but it is just my opinion on this right to choose...*sigh* no one ever listens to me.

[firingneurons.livejournal.com]

Actually, I agree with you completely on this, I've been saying that for a while now.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

a-ha!!!! i knew i couldn;t be the only one out there. i am SO adding you...*runs off to edit friends page...*

[firingneurons.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry to say my journal isn't that interesting, but I'm adding you too!

[conuly]

Yes, Lizziey, lots of girls are sluts. That's nice. What the hell does that have to do with anything? People make stupid choices all the time, why shouldn't they get a chance to keep from making a worse choice? Some people shouldn't be parents. Sometimes, birth control fails. You're going to punish the kid because the mom is stupid? Nice, Liz, real nice.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

there is adoption. if you were stupid enough to get pregnant at a time that you would rather KILL you baby,. well then, at least let the kid live, and give up your responsibility. and the whole "well then i will know i have a child out there, etc." argument? well, you shouldn't have been the slut. killing is WRONG! if you will die before the bbay is viable, ok. rape i'm iffy about, but i guess i can understand, even though the bbay didn;t choose who would fertilize it...

exactly

[scottrossi.livejournal.com]

exactly, i am pro choice as well, but i despise the fact that women are being forced into having abortions because there is no other way for them to raise a child. their funding getting cut, public assistance programs dying out, even workplace assistance withering because they don't have to give us coverage or help, is pathetic.

at my job we are considering opening a free or low cost day care, for as long as the call center is open and people need their child watched, but it is on hold depending on who wins the election from what i hear. sigh.

[robotliliput.livejournal.com]

This post echoes the very things I was thinking about last night... the fact that Richard Nixon was the very last Republican in that office who felt a "christian" obligation toward the poor. I also thought about the sickening despair one feels while living in a state of poverty, and the even more sickening sensation of knowing one is about to bring someone else into that world... it boggles the imagination.

Anti-Abortionists: If you've never lived in your car, or you've never known anyone who lived in their car, or you've never really read a book (Joyce Carol Oates has some pretty down and out characters, she'd be a good one to read) where people were that poor, what business do you have telling people how they should live their lives? That they can risk any sense of dignity they might have, asking for public assistance? (But you might take that away, too, calling for an end to "handouts".)

I don't know. I'm just tired. If Bush wins this election, I might go all Mujaheedin on his ass and strap a shitload of dynamite around my middle and go shake his hand and do the world a favor. I don't know what else to do.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

o know i am a bitch for saying it, and you'll probbaly delete it anyway...

yeah, i agree with pro-choice...

The girl chose to open her legs, right?
The girl chose to have sex right? (assuming it isn't rape...)
The girl chose to not use a better form of birth control...



How many choices should she get?

Love ya connie. delete if you muct. but it is just my opinion on this right to choose...*sigh* no one ever listens to me.

[firingneurons.livejournal.com]

Actually, I agree with you completely on this, I've been saying that for a while now.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

a-ha!!!! i knew i couldn;t be the only one out there. i am SO adding you...*runs off to edit friends page...*

[firingneurons.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry to say my journal isn't that interesting, but I'm adding you too!

[conuly]

Yes, Lizziey, lots of girls are sluts. That's nice. What the hell does that have to do with anything? People make stupid choices all the time, why shouldn't they get a chance to keep from making a worse choice? Some people shouldn't be parents. Sometimes, birth control fails. You're going to punish the kid because the mom is stupid? Nice, Liz, real nice.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

there is adoption. if you were stupid enough to get pregnant at a time that you would rather KILL you baby,. well then, at least let the kid live, and give up your responsibility. and the whole "well then i will know i have a child out there, etc." argument? well, you shouldn't have been the slut. killing is WRONG! if you will die before the bbay is viable, ok. rape i'm iffy about, but i guess i can understand, even though the bbay didn;t choose who would fertilize it...