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This, I feel, is at best a waste of money and at worst a complete tactical error.

Obviously the Trumpers don't really care about her DNA. They just want to mock her in the most offensive way possible. They're not going to believe her (or even remember that they didn't bother to believe her) any more than they believed Obama about his birth certificate. Responding to them just lends them credibility and dignity that they thoroughly don't deserve.

Instead, she ought to be focusing on the people who matter, which is, those of us who might ever vote for her. And I don't think any of us care either. A great many people who aren't Native still have some Native American ancestry. Big deal! What she ought to do is mea culpa about calling herself Native American when she isn't tribally enrolled, which would show that she took the time to educate herself, which I think we all do care about, at least a little more than whether or not one of her distant ancestors was maybe Native American or not.

Re: From the Cherokee Nation

Date: 2018-10-16 01:19 am (UTC)
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I hissed with absolute satisfaction when I read this response. Such an insult for her do to this, for a bet, and using the DNA tests. I'd still vote for her of course, but I disliked her before and loathe her now.

Yet another sickening day in US politics.


(ETA: I'm Native, and vote Democrat, upset by this on a personal level.)
Edited Date: 2018-10-16 01:20 am (UTC)

Re: From the Cherokee Nation

Date: 2018-10-16 02:11 am (UTC)
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I hear you.

I have the reflexive urge, as a Democrat from MA, to defend Warren, but I won't do it in here unless you actually want a conversation around the subject.

Re: From the Cherokee Nation

Date: 2018-10-16 10:58 am (UTC)
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Eh, honestly my conversation about it is probably just that there's three POVs in this one, the Democrat, Republican, and the Native side.

The only pro-Warren argument I can see within the Native POV is ignorance, or once again, that the big picture mattered more than the Native vote.

Re: From the Cherokee Nation

Date: 2018-10-17 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] julian
Mostly I had gone, "She's not doing it for a bet!!1!!," as if that really mattered. (I no longer care about that aspect, to be clearer.)

I think it is big picture, and also her continually accepting the right-wing framing of the issue, which is hard to avoid but really irritating to watch happen in slo-mo, all over Massachusetts

Re: From the Cherokee Nation

Date: 2018-10-16 05:19 am (UTC)
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'd still vote for her of course, but I disliked her before and loathe her now.

*nod*

I'm a White Euro immigrant to the United States, and I was deeply disappointed to see her doing this stunt -- because that's what it is. I didn't precisely like her before, but I guess I trusted her to do the right thing...

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