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Date: 2017-05-31 04:42 pm (UTC)
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I don't see any "other" gender being accepted by this country for at least another generation; people are still trying to get used to homosexuals, and it's been thirty years since mixed marriage was still considered a bit strange. I think progressive values are accelerating with these coming years, but for now, I just can't see it happening realistically for awhile, especially as long as people are using trans folks as a target.

Date: 2017-05-31 07:31 pm (UTC)
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Well, it's already happened in a number of other countries. And Oregon was the first in the US with that court decision. Sometime next month DMV is supposed to have things set up to issue licenses and IDs with the X marker.

As of last night the form on the web site for requesting a change still has only M and F.

But the difference between being "accepted" and "recognized" is rather huge.

I fully expect that there will be quite a few folks who won't like the X gender markers. But nobody is asking them to *like* it. Just to realize that it's legal and get on with business.

Me? I'm going to look into it next time my license comes up for renewal. Partly to support folks and partly because I'd rather have ID that folks can't use against me if I'm dressing male, female or a mix of both.

Date: 2017-05-31 07:37 pm (UTC)
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That's true about "accepted" and "recognized" and I apologize I took the ignorant route on that.

I dunno though, I just think there's going to be some time even once legally recognized, that you're going to get some more Kim Davises out there giving people crap for it.

In your case, I wish you the best; at the very least, you're helping to trailblaze this to some degree of normalcy.

Date: 2017-05-31 09:59 pm (UTC)
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Well, Portland is pretty good about this sort of thing. We've had trans friendly laws for 20 or more years. And Oregon has had them for 10 or more.

You still get idiots though.

Me, I *prefer* to avoid hassles by trying to "pass" when I decide to dress en femme. But I'm old enough that I may well just go "the hell with it".

Thinking about wearing one of my dresses or a nice cool skirt and top to Pride, but not bothering to shave off the beard (I have the beard because my face does *not* tolerate shaving well)

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