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"A better way to holiday shop."
This, of course, caused me to go "A better way to what now?" because I'm sure I would say "shop for the holidays" or something like that.
Still, after I noticed that I largely forgot about it. I mean, it *is* a more efficient way to say the same thing, even if it sounds funny to me. I figured it was just an advertising thing, like a headline thing. But now here I am reading the comments here and there it is again, in the comments, from a real person: "Here's a little background: my husband loves to grocery shop and so do I." Is this like jump roping instead of jumping rope? (Oh, man, I need to re-up this account so I can do polls again!)
This, of course, caused me to go "A better way to what now?" because I'm sure I would say "shop for the holidays" or something like that.
Still, after I noticed that I largely forgot about it. I mean, it *is* a more efficient way to say the same thing, even if it sounds funny to me. I figured it was just an advertising thing, like a headline thing. But now here I am reading the comments here and there it is again, in the comments, from a real person: "Here's a little background: my husband loves to grocery shop and so do I." Is this like jump roping instead of jumping rope? (Oh, man, I need to re-up this account so I can do polls again!)
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Date: 2011-01-26 05:04 pm (UTC)Specifically, back-formation from a noun+gerund compound (like coin-collecting in the top post at the link I gave) to a verb (like coin-collect).
Applies to both holiday-shopping > holiday-shop and grocery-shopping > grocery-shop.
'jump roping' seems almost like a reverse process - it starts not with a noun-gerund compound, but a verb-noun sequence (jump (V) rope (N)) that then gets reanalyzed and the result looks like a noun-gerund compound.
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Date: 2011-01-26 05:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-28 12:14 am (UTC)When you say 'this specific construction is new to me', do you mean with gerunds, or with 'shopping'?
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Date: 2011-01-28 05:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-27 11:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-26 05:01 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-01-26 05:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-26 05:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-26 05:46 pm (UTC)I think that's it, you know. "Shopping" - a part of a verb that's been turned into a noun (is that a gerund?) The "clothes-" bit is a modifier to the noun, almost an adjective. Or to put it another way - yes, I agree with you.
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Date: 2011-01-26 05:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-26 05:55 pm (UTC)"grocery-shop"
Date: 2011-01-26 07:31 pm (UTC)I'd also like as not say "We need to go grocery-shopping," or, "I have to go clothes-shopping."
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Date: 2011-01-26 05:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-26 08:06 pm (UTC)If I had to say, "I like to ________" I would choose "I like to shop for clothes" or "I like to go to the grocery store" rather than "I like to grocery/clothes shop." I agree that "I like grocery shopping" sounds the best.
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Date: 2011-01-27 01:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-28 12:14 am (UTC)