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Bloody disgusting.

I sometimes think that people who do this sort of thing to animals should have the same thing done to them. You know, an eye for an eye and all that. But it doesn't do any good, or reverse the suffering of the poor cat.

Still, people allow cruelty to so-called 'farm and food' animals every day, and society condones it, all so we can have our fried chicken / steak / pork / fish / whatever. I see no difference. Cruelty is cruelty.

I only wish people would get as upset and angry at cruelty to these animals :-(

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I highly dislike cruelty. I don't mind that much if people kill an animal for food. But until they slaughter the animal, it should be treated with kindness and respect. Torture is simply inexcusable.

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Well, unfortunately, if a person eats meat that from animals they didn't keep themself (or meat that isn't listed as organic and free-range), they're supporting cruelty.

In Australia, 85% of pigs are farmed in crates, and over 98% of chickens. We even have a large percentage of cows now intensively farmed (this is still very new to Australia). Pigs that never see sunlight, chickens that are caged and have their throats slit at 6 weeks (average age for a broiler chicken to be killed), and cows whose calves are ripped away from their mothers within 2 days and confined to veal crates where they, too, will never see the sun. In the egg industry, male chicks are ground up alive (fully conscious) or gassed, and their bodies are 'reprocessed' as animal feed and fertiliser.

These are the figures for Australia; in the US the figures are much worse. If a person eats meat, they are guilty of cruelty against animals in the current 'farming' situation - it's as simple as that. No humane person would ever treat a cat or dog the way our 'food' animals are treated; they'd be horrified if they knew what goes on.

That's why I'm vegan - I simply don't believe in being cruel to animals. No matter who happens to do my cruelty for me, if I eat meat I am the cause of their suffering. Other people must do what they feel is right, of course.

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And your reasons are exactly why I ONLY eat certified organic or free range meat - though I don't eat much meat in the first place.

I have no problem with the idea of raising animals as food. I have a problem with the way most are treated, and with the fact that we kill far, far more than we need to survive.

Whether food animals or not, they should all be treated with respect.

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I have no problem with the idea of raising animals as food. I have a problem with the way most are treated, and with the fact that we kill far, far more than we need to survive.

I wish everyone who eats meat had that attitude! I still believe that meat is unethical and unhealthy, for a host of reasons, but if people are going to eat it, it is better that they murder animals that have lived a long and healthy, natural life.

How do you feel about eating road kill, as an aside? I know in France, roadkill is acceptable fare, and to me this makes a lot of sense if you're going to eat meat.

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It depends on the roadkill, actually. *laugh*

If it's squirell, no thanks, it's too much work for too little meat that doesn't taste good in the first place.

Rabbit, however, is pretty good no matter which way you look at it, provided you cook it properly. *laugh*

And deer is a DEFINITE yes. I love venison. ...Actually, the first taste I had of venison WAS roadkill, now that I think of it. It was wonderful and, pardon the pun, "fell apart" in one's mouth.

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I am aware of such things.

I find it unfortunate, because so many people I know are quite fond of eating meat - and I really would prefer they be able to easily acquire meat that didn't involve cruelty. It doesn't have to.

It's also on my list of reasons that the US is not a Christian nation. The point of "do not boil a kid in its mother's milk" should be a general - sure, eat animals and their products, but treat them with respect. And that general concept seems to have gotten badly lost. It's a shame. It's one of the few concepts from religion that I think could be quite nice if properly applied.

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shadesong.livejournal.com

Jesus fuck. What is wrong with people?

Their edit says they have all the money they need, is why I'm not posting it...

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neurotica0.livejournal.com

What a horribly sad story.

It appears the finances are now covered though, at least. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/city_glitter/844427.html?thread=3317131#t3317131)

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Bloody disgusting.

I sometimes think that people who do this sort of thing to animals should have the same thing done to them. You know, an eye for an eye and all that. But it doesn't do any good, or reverse the suffering of the poor cat.

Still, people allow cruelty to so-called 'farm and food' animals every day, and society condones it, all so we can have our fried chicken / steak / pork / fish / whatever. I see no difference. Cruelty is cruelty.

I only wish people would get as upset and angry at cruelty to these animals :-(

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I highly dislike cruelty. I don't mind that much if people kill an animal for food. But until they slaughter the animal, it should be treated with kindness and respect. Torture is simply inexcusable.

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Well, unfortunately, if a person eats meat that from animals they didn't keep themself (or meat that isn't listed as organic and free-range), they're supporting cruelty.

In Australia, 85% of pigs are farmed in crates, and over 98% of chickens. We even have a large percentage of cows now intensively farmed (this is still very new to Australia). Pigs that never see sunlight, chickens that are caged and have their throats slit at 6 weeks (average age for a broiler chicken to be killed), and cows whose calves are ripped away from their mothers within 2 days and confined to veal crates where they, too, will never see the sun. In the egg industry, male chicks are ground up alive (fully conscious) or gassed, and their bodies are 'reprocessed' as animal feed and fertiliser.

These are the figures for Australia; in the US the figures are much worse. If a person eats meat, they are guilty of cruelty against animals in the current 'farming' situation - it's as simple as that. No humane person would ever treat a cat or dog the way our 'food' animals are treated; they'd be horrified if they knew what goes on.

That's why I'm vegan - I simply don't believe in being cruel to animals. No matter who happens to do my cruelty for me, if I eat meat I am the cause of their suffering. Other people must do what they feel is right, of course.

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And your reasons are exactly why I ONLY eat certified organic or free range meat - though I don't eat much meat in the first place.

I have no problem with the idea of raising animals as food. I have a problem with the way most are treated, and with the fact that we kill far, far more than we need to survive.

Whether food animals or not, they should all be treated with respect.

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I have no problem with the idea of raising animals as food. I have a problem with the way most are treated, and with the fact that we kill far, far more than we need to survive.

I wish everyone who eats meat had that attitude! I still believe that meat is unethical and unhealthy, for a host of reasons, but if people are going to eat it, it is better that they murder animals that have lived a long and healthy, natural life.

How do you feel about eating road kill, as an aside? I know in France, roadkill is acceptable fare, and to me this makes a lot of sense if you're going to eat meat.

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It depends on the roadkill, actually. *laugh*

If it's squirell, no thanks, it's too much work for too little meat that doesn't taste good in the first place.

Rabbit, however, is pretty good no matter which way you look at it, provided you cook it properly. *laugh*

And deer is a DEFINITE yes. I love venison. ...Actually, the first taste I had of venison WAS roadkill, now that I think of it. It was wonderful and, pardon the pun, "fell apart" in one's mouth.

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