Have youse guys ever heard of this before?

[conuly]

Because Public Schools in NYC most definitely do *not* cost money (outside of taxes), and I've never heard of anything so absurd before.

Comments

[cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com]

When I was a child, my parents were required to pay about fifty dollars a year for "materials." It's probably more now, what with inflation.

[conuly]

Materials that you bought, like construction paper and crayons and whatnot? That's not the same thing. That's buying school supplies.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

My public school also had some fees for certain classes, usually science and art. "Lab fees" and "materials fees." You give the school money, it buys the stuff.

But tuition? Wha? If you get an answer to that whole thing, I'd be curious to hear it.

[conuly]

My public school also had some fees for certain classes, usually science and art. "Lab fees" and "materials fees." You give the school money, it buys the stuff.

Yeah, we have that in NYC too - it's usually cheap, like $10 for lab fees at Stuy.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

The most I ever had to pay was $50 for jewelry class, I think. And more when I bought silver in various forms from the teacher. Other than that, they were pretty small fees.

[cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com]

Nope, it was just a flat fee you paid the school at the beginning of the year. Materials/registration/whatever else. School didn't have much money.

[leora.livejournal.com]

I know someone who went to a public school that had tuition, but it was a public boarding school. So, while the person had to pay a few hundred dollars a year in tuition (waived for suitable poverty) they also fed the students... throughout the whole school year. So, it works out to be far, far cheaper than just having the kid at home (assuming you're feeding your child decently and don't get magical free food).

Schools often have fees for certain things. At my school they had fees to learn how to play an instrument, you had to rent the instrument in question. We also had mandatory school supplies that could be costly. My lothario went through chemistry without the required calculator because he couldn't afford it, and had to try to work out logs with a log chart on tests that were timed based on the student using a calculator.

The person also mentions lunches though and mentions getting free lunches. So, maybe the person is confusing paying for lunch, which was usual at my schools, with paying for school.

But they really do vary. And many people do get a substandard education because they cannot afford the various things needed for a public school education. But they can always ~go~ to the school. That's guaranteed.

[ursamajor]

not that i know a whole lot about public education, but someone on my friendslist teaches in the nyc public school system, and she buys kids paper out of her own paycheck so they have something to write on. i believe her quote was that she goes through a ream of paper 1-2x/week, and that's with giving each kid 1 piece of paper per day. and she most certainly does not get reimbursed by the school district for this.

so if schools are charging a supplies fee, it doesn't cover much.

[conuly]

so if schools are charging a supplies fee, it doesn't cover much.

We don't do that in NYC. Students are expected to bring their own supplies, usually bought off a list given out at the beginning of the year/term or just "common sense" (paper/pens). Only a few classes have fees, things like labs and such.

[ursamajor]

ah, okay, that makes a little more sense then. she teaches in one of the schools where many of her kids' families can't even afford things like that, for whatever reason.

[xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com]

their info says they go to school in Chicago. here's chicago's site: http://www.cps.k12.il.us/Schools/ I don't see anything about fees on there, but I didn't look too hard. :\

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Not related, as usually, but hey. (http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/6878)

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

OT: I may have problems with dinner tomorrow. Could we do lunch instead?

[conuly]

Um, sure. What's wrong with dinner?

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

Abdul missed/forgot/I don't know that we are supposed to go up to his parents this weekend. But we can do lunch and then head up there. Is that okay with you? Still the Afghan place?

[conuly]

Okay.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

Hey, would Vida be an option for you (since we didn't get to go last time?) Or are you married to the Afghan place?

[conuly]

Whatever you like. I'm a tiny bit irked, I wanted to go to the museum with you guys.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

I am *really* sorry about all this. If it makes you feel any better, Doris is furious about the whole thing, and so Abdul is now having a major fight with his mom. He hung up on her even. :-/ So we're not too happy over here either. I promise, we *will* get to go soon. Mommy was talking about going with you to the museum anyway (Natural History, right?).

[conuly]

*nods*

And no, this doesn't make me feel better. But maybe we can all go out *next* week to a museum together.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

*hugs* I really am sorry, you do know that right?

And yes, I was hoping next weekend would be good. AT the moment however, I am not going to confirm ANYTHING, since I have no idea how this fight is going to resolve itself. Theoretically, if they make up but we don't go this week, we could end up going next week, y'know?

Side note: I have a calendar done up for you, you can input the items straight in to your aptop next time you have a chance. You have Outlook, right? 'Tis good, will give you practice on it. The stuff I put on is all from the BC calendar. Conversion days, holidays, and some workshops I think you should take (Finding the Right Major, How to Make a Job Fair Work for You, etc.)

*raises hand*

[followingmyfish.livejournal.com]

I live just southwest of Chicago, and when I was in school you were supposed to pay something like $70-80 a year to be allowed to attend. I didn't even realize that it was out of the ordinary to do such a thing until I read that thread.

[cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com]

When I was a child, my parents were required to pay about fifty dollars a year for "materials." It's probably more now, what with inflation.

[conuly]

Materials that you bought, like construction paper and crayons and whatnot? That's not the same thing. That's buying school supplies.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

My public school also had some fees for certain classes, usually science and art. "Lab fees" and "materials fees." You give the school money, it buys the stuff.

But tuition? Wha? If you get an answer to that whole thing, I'd be curious to hear it.

[conuly]

My public school also had some fees for certain classes, usually science and art. "Lab fees" and "materials fees." You give the school money, it buys the stuff.

Yeah, we have that in NYC too - it's usually cheap, like $10 for lab fees at Stuy.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

The most I ever had to pay was $50 for jewelry class, I think. And more when I bought silver in various forms from the teacher. Other than that, they were pretty small fees.

[cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com]

Nope, it was just a flat fee you paid the school at the beginning of the year. Materials/registration/whatever else. School didn't have much money.

[leora.livejournal.com]

I know someone who went to a public school that had tuition, but it was a public boarding school. So, while the person had to pay a few hundred dollars a year in tuition (waived for suitable poverty) they also fed the students... throughout the whole school year. So, it works out to be far, far cheaper than just having the kid at home (assuming you're feeding your child decently and don't get magical free food).

Schools often have fees for certain things. At my school they had fees to learn how to play an instrument, you had to rent the instrument in question. We also had mandatory school supplies that could be costly. My lothario went through chemistry without the required calculator because he couldn't afford it, and had to try to work out logs with a log chart on tests that were timed based on the student using a calculator.

The person also mentions lunches though and mentions getting free lunches. So, maybe the person is confusing paying for lunch, which was usual at my schools, with paying for school.

But they really do vary. And many people do get a substandard education because they cannot afford the various things needed for a public school education. But they can always ~go~ to the school. That's guaranteed.

[ursamajor]

not that i know a whole lot about public education, but someone on my friendslist teaches in the nyc public school system, and she buys kids paper out of her own paycheck so they have something to write on. i believe her quote was that she goes through a ream of paper 1-2x/week, and that's with giving each kid 1 piece of paper per day. and she most certainly does not get reimbursed by the school district for this.

so if schools are charging a supplies fee, it doesn't cover much.

[conuly]

so if schools are charging a supplies fee, it doesn't cover much.

We don't do that in NYC. Students are expected to bring their own supplies, usually bought off a list given out at the beginning of the year/term or just "common sense" (paper/pens). Only a few classes have fees, things like labs and such.

[ursamajor]

ah, okay, that makes a little more sense then. she teaches in one of the schools where many of her kids' families can't even afford things like that, for whatever reason.

[xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com]

their info says they go to school in Chicago. here's chicago's site: http://www.cps.k12.il.us/Schools/ I don't see anything about fees on there, but I didn't look too hard. :\

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Not related, as usually, but hey. (http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/6878)

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

OT: I may have problems with dinner tomorrow. Could we do lunch instead?

[conuly]

Um, sure. What's wrong with dinner?

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

Abdul missed/forgot/I don't know that we are supposed to go up to his parents this weekend. But we can do lunch and then head up there. Is that okay with you? Still the Afghan place?

[conuly]

Okay.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

Hey, would Vida be an option for you (since we didn't get to go last time?) Or are you married to the Afghan place?

[conuly]

Whatever you like. I'm a tiny bit irked, I wanted to go to the museum with you guys.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

I am *really* sorry about all this. If it makes you feel any better, Doris is furious about the whole thing, and so Abdul is now having a major fight with his mom. He hung up on her even. :-/ So we're not too happy over here either. I promise, we *will* get to go soon. Mommy was talking about going with you to the museum anyway (Natural History, right?).

[conuly]

*nods*

And no, this doesn't make me feel better. But maybe we can all go out *next* week to a museum together.

[gingembre.livejournal.com]

*hugs* I really am sorry, you do know that right?

And yes, I was hoping next weekend would be good. AT the moment however, I am not going to confirm ANYTHING, since I have no idea how this fight is going to resolve itself. Theoretically, if they make up but we don't go this week, we could end up going next week, y'know?

Side note: I have a calendar done up for you, you can input the items straight in to your aptop next time you have a chance. You have Outlook, right? 'Tis good, will give you practice on it. The stuff I put on is all from the BC calendar. Conversion days, holidays, and some workshops I think you should take (Finding the Right Major, How to Make a Job Fair Work for You, etc.)

*raises hand*

[followingmyfish.livejournal.com]

I live just southwest of Chicago, and when I was in school you were supposed to pay something like $70-80 a year to be allowed to attend. I didn't even realize that it was out of the ordinary to do such a thing until I read that thread.