I promised those charts!

[conuly]

And here they are!

If this isn't just the coolest thing, I don't know what is.

Comments

[hopefulnebula]

I'm going to have to remember that if I take up voice lessons again.

[farraige.livejournal.com]

American use of IPA has a few idiosyncrasies I'm personally not happy with. You lot don't stick to the actual IPA consonants as prescribed; you use "y" for voiced palatal approximant, you employ diacritics to designate voiceless post-alveolar fricatives and affricates, and... what else? I cannot see any need for this. Why not stick to IPA?

[conuly]

Cuz we can :)

I really don't know, actually - I wasn't aware that there *was* more than one IPA. That's the whole point of the I, isn't it?

[farraige.livejournal.com]

>>That's the whole point of the I, isn't it?

Not to me it isn't. Alleged Internationality calls for unanimity methinks, unless the goal is to confuse everyone. To me, "y" refers to close front rounded vowel, aka Cardinal No.9.

(Roca and Johnson vs. Kenstowicz serve well for a comparison)

[conuly]

Yeah, that's what I said. The point of the I is to be the same. Sorry for the confusion. Are you ever gonna answer me on the codeswitching thing, I fear I scared you off or was horribly mistaken (well, I found linkies...) or something.

[farraige.livejournal.com]

I just did. That was wrt to Wardhaugh, right?
(just in case it didn't get posted, because I replied from my mailbox, -- we used Hudson's Sociolinguistics 2nd ed. and were actively discouraged from using Wardhaugh for reasons of the two schools being contradictory on many accounts.)

[conuly]

Yeah, it didn't show up.

And that'd make sense, though I'll defend my usage by saying that a quick google search agrees with me on the definition of "code-switching". Example and example. Google-searching is hardly scientific, but the word isn't widespread enough that I think there's much misinformation.

[hopefulnebula]

I'm going to have to remember that if I take up voice lessons again.

[farraige.livejournal.com]

American use of IPA has a few idiosyncrasies I'm personally not happy with. You lot don't stick to the actual IPA consonants as prescribed; you use "y" for voiced palatal approximant, you employ diacritics to designate voiceless post-alveolar fricatives and affricates, and... what else? I cannot see any need for this. Why not stick to IPA?

[conuly]

Cuz we can :)

I really don't know, actually - I wasn't aware that there *was* more than one IPA. That's the whole point of the I, isn't it?

[farraige.livejournal.com]

>>That's the whole point of the I, isn't it?

Not to me it isn't. Alleged Internationality calls for unanimity methinks, unless the goal is to confuse everyone. To me, "y" refers to close front rounded vowel, aka Cardinal No.9.

(Roca and Johnson vs. Kenstowicz serve well for a comparison)

[conuly]

Yeah, that's what I said. The point of the I is to be the same. Sorry for the confusion. Are you ever gonna answer me on the codeswitching thing, I fear I scared you off or was horribly mistaken (well, I found linkies...) or something.

[farraige.livejournal.com]

I just did. That was wrt to Wardhaugh, right?
(just in case it didn't get posted, because I replied from my mailbox, -- we used Hudson's Sociolinguistics 2nd ed. and were actively discouraged from using Wardhaugh for reasons of the two schools being contradictory on many accounts.)

[conuly]

Yeah, it didn't show up.

And that'd make sense, though I'll defend my usage by saying that a quick google search agrees with me on the definition of "code-switching". Example and example. Google-searching is hardly scientific, but the word isn't widespread enough that I think there's much misinformation.