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I really love this movie. It's progressive, y'know?

I mean, here it is, 1947, and Doris Walker is a single mom with a very respectable/important job at Macy's. She's not just a single mom, she's divorced. In 1947.

When Fred comes over, we see him helping out in the kitchen. Seriously. He's got an apron on, and he helps set the table. It's really questionable how much he was helping in that tiny kitchen, but there it is. Fred, apron, kitchen.

And not 20 years later, poor Samantha Stevens is being chewed out by her husband for not making a huge dinner in 10 minutes without magic.

I don't get it.

And I don't want to talk about the "remake". Bah. Humbug.

And, if you're curious, the Dutch song is here. That's not a translation, though. The real translation goes more like: Santa Claus, put something in my shoe, put something in my boot, thank you Santa Claus. Black Peter is, I'm told, the helper Santa has in Holland, so that's probably where "Saint Peter" comes from in their English.

Date: 2004-12-13 04:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deceptica
I'd just like to point out that Sinterklaas != Santa Claus. I think Santa Claus was originally based on Sinterklaas, but by now they really are quite different. Sinterklaas comes to the Netherlands from Spain for example, by boat, and he's accompanied by the "Black Peters" - and he comes on the 5th of December, not in the night of the 24th.

Fixed a typo.

Date: 2004-12-13 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
I would normally bow to your greater knowledge, but I'm sure I recently read that he arrives in the country about three weeks before the 5th.

The Saint Nick's tradition in Germany looks pretty nasty - beatings and kids being tied up in sacks and that. Eek!

I should have exchanged to NL so I could have Sinterklaas and then go home and have Christmas ;0)

Date: 2004-12-13 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deceptica
Well, I didn't claim that he comes to the country on December 5th, I meant that he comes to the individual houses to hand out gifts on the 5th. :-)

We have Saint Nick here too.

Date: 2004-12-13 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
Sinterklaas comes to the Netherlands from Spain ... and he comes on the 5th of December,

Implied otherwise *shrugs* But I can see what you meant.

And I had a feeling you had him too, but for some reason what I was reading about NL, Belgium and Germany had stuck in my head much better.

sinterklaas

Date: 2004-12-13 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottrossi.livejournal.com
the person who was talking about sinterklaas is right. there was this PA Dutch family that lived near me that used to put their shoes on the porch overnight and the kids would wake up to find them stuffed with candies and treats and little toys, as a prelude to xmas. she explained that it was when santa's little helpers let kids know if they are good in santa's eyes by giving them some early gifts to let them know it is almost time or somethign. been like 10 years since i have seen that though. it was cute.

Date: 2004-12-13 04:47 am (UTC)
deceptica: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deceptica
I'd just like to point out that Sinterklaas != Santa Claus. I think Santa Claus was originally based on Sinterklaas, but by now they really are quite different. Sinterklaas comes to the Netherlands from Spain for example, by boat, and he's accompanied by the "Black Peters" - and he comes on the 5th of December, not in the night of the 24th.

Fixed a typo.

Date: 2004-12-13 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
I would normally bow to your greater knowledge, but I'm sure I recently read that he arrives in the country about three weeks before the 5th.

The Saint Nick's tradition in Germany looks pretty nasty - beatings and kids being tied up in sacks and that. Eek!

I should have exchanged to NL so I could have Sinterklaas and then go home and have Christmas ;0)

Date: 2004-12-13 08:48 am (UTC)
deceptica: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deceptica
Well, I didn't claim that he comes to the country on December 5th, I meant that he comes to the individual houses to hand out gifts on the 5th. :-)

We have Saint Nick here too.

Date: 2004-12-13 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
Sinterklaas comes to the Netherlands from Spain ... and he comes on the 5th of December,

Implied otherwise *shrugs* But I can see what you meant.

And I had a feeling you had him too, but for some reason what I was reading about NL, Belgium and Germany had stuck in my head much better.

sinterklaas

Date: 2004-12-13 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottrossi.livejournal.com
the person who was talking about sinterklaas is right. there was this PA Dutch family that lived near me that used to put their shoes on the porch overnight and the kids would wake up to find them stuffed with candies and treats and little toys, as a prelude to xmas. she explained that it was when santa's little helpers let kids know if they are good in santa's eyes by giving them some early gifts to let them know it is almost time or somethign. been like 10 years since i have seen that though. it was cute.

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