*blinks*

Sep. 26th, 2004 02:31 pm
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Can somebody tell me what the kid did that was so horrible? Because I'm just not seeing it. I *am* seeing some pettiness on the part of the poster, though, notably this:

IB: What type of soup is it?
M (thinking): Didn't you read the menu *on your table*?! (out loud) Sweet Potato and Cummin.
IB: Oh, that sounds good.
M (thinking): Girl, even I don't know exactly what cummin is. Who are you trying to impress?


Wow. She *didn't read the menu*! Yes, she should've, but she didn't. And because she says "oh, that sounds good", she *must* be trying to show off?

No, the kid doesn't sound like the paragon of politeness. Skipping please isn't nice. But it's also not nice to correct other people's manners in public.

Date: 2004-09-27 05:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] littlebutfierce
"ole kiltti" means literally "be kind"; i've seen in (in my text as well) used to soften imperatives.

& yeah, you would order by saying something like "kuppi kahvia, kiitos."

re: the partitive--iirc it'd be fine to use it to ask for a drink, because it's an uncountable, unquantifiable thing. you want some wine. (although i freely admit i could be wrong, because i'm still recovering from over-the-summer loss of grammar preciseness)

i'm half-finnish. why are YOU studying finnish?

Date: 2004-09-27 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
The viinia thing - I didn't realise that you were saying something like "please my I have some wine" - I thought this way of saying please (which I didn't recognise) randonly included viinia. Now I understand.

I live in Helsinki. Well, for a few months ;0) Handy language to know around these parts you know.

Date: 2004-09-27 05:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] littlebutfierce
I thought this way of saying please (which I didn't recognise) randonly included viinia.

hahahaha... whoops! that would be amusing indeed. :)

ooh, living in helsinki! lucky lucky!

although i have to say, when i was there this summer, way too many people immediately switched to english when i tried my halting finnish on them. dammit! i'm trying to LEARN! cut me some slack! ;)

Date: 2004-09-27 08:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] littlebutfierce
oh, but their english is inevitably wonderful--my cousin & his partner are doing master's degrees, & their courses are all taught in english!

there is definitely a class divide, though--because the people who did speak finnish w/me were more likely to be people working in shops or whatever.

Date: 2004-09-27 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
It isn't that amazing *shrugs*

But yeah, learning Finnish when everyone speaks English is difficult (not that it's easy anyway.) I do have a slight advantage in that my course is taught in a combination of Finnish and English so I am exposed to Finnish when I'm at university. And when I'm shopping, everythig is in Finnish.

I had one glorious moment in France a few years ago where I spoke better French than the waiter did English so I was able to give complex orders in French. That was great.

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