In other stupid internet arguments

[conuly]

I have explained this to you in every way I possibly can, short of interpretive dance. If you still aren't getting it, the problem is not that I am not trying hard enough to understand you. At this point, I have nothing left to say other than that I think you need to go home and rethink your life.

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Missing referent

[polydad]

What is the 'this' that you are trying to explain?

Re: Missing referent

[conuly]

That the racism is inherent in the LH narrative and it doesn't really matter whether LW put it there on purpose and cackled as she did so. Sorry, any story about the westward expansion is political by its very nature.

But she just keeps asking and asking and asking "So do you think she wrote it to promote racism" and that's not even adjacent to what I have said and if she actually read it she would know that.

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[polydad]

Pardon me, but I'm still only half-clued.  What is the "LH narrative", and who is "LW"?

best,

Joel

Re: Missing referent

[conuly]

Little House. Laura Ingalls Wilder.

Re: Missing referent

[conuly]

(But I mostly just wanted nods of approval, which is kinda why I didn't give all the details upfront, just fyi.)

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[stardreamer]

It doesn't matter if she meant it or not. Intent is not magic. And in this particular instance, I don't see how it was avoidable -- she was so steeped in the culture of it that she couldn't even see it.

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[conuly]

Yes, I may have said that to this woman a dozen different ways, and she just kept. on. asking.

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[conuly]

(Although she was also "this wasn't written to promote a political agenda" and, hello! aside from the political agenda inherent in the narrative it is very well established that the actual history was carefully edited by Laura and especially Rose to promote libertarian views which is actually a political agenda no matter how you slice it! And that was intentional and deliberate.)

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[archangelbeth]

*nods approvingly EVEN MORE*

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[conuly]

And after I completely lost my shit at her it's oh I'm so uncivil and oh I could've just said this instead of that - and, first, I don't know what you call asking the same damn question four times in succession but I call it uncivil, second I don't really know what response you expected after time number four, and third, I god damn DID say "this" the first two times!

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[zyzyly]

Yes--exactly.

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[spikethemuffin]

I... even when it's YOUR political agenda, how can you NOT see that? Gun porn and all? It sounds like you have gone so far above and beyond to accommodate this dialogue you can see the back of your own neck.

Re: Missing referent

[archangelbeth]

Clearly they wanted you to go away and stop harshing their childhood buzz. (...I never really liked the books very much, so when I saw Ana Mardoll's twitter live-read thread on the... drat, Prairie Fires, was that the name? That book that totally tears apart the myth of LHotP and all... I was munching the virtual popcorn!

Ahem.

*fistbump of solidarity*

[cellio]

Aw, now I want to see the interpretative dance. :-)