I don't get it.

[conuly]

What is it about asperger that attracts the trolls? We don't even get good trolls - this is the shittiest trolling I've ever seen! Where's the drama? The entertainment? The moderators?

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[ser-kai.livejournal.com]

It's kinda nice having trolls even I can handle, though.
Good experience.

[redlami.livejournal.com]

What I hate most about the trolls is how it draws out people who are in the community but seem to be in some kind of denial about themselves (uran comes to mind) who then use it as an excuse to complain about what a bunch of complainers we are.

My approach is just to keep quiet. This too shall pass.

BTW I've finally added you, not sure why it took this long :)

[yuki-onna.livejournal.com]

Might I suggest, tentatively, that the website you guys have linked on your entries page to explain aspergers is a rather silly one with many spelling and grammar errors which does not explain why people with Asperger's have any kind of difficulty in life, but rather lists symptoms which seem positive and in no way detrimental--high IQ, honest, open-minded. It doesn't make it sound legitimate, and to the uninformed, would make extremely light of the condition. I would suggest you find a more professional and complete site to link to.

Just my 2 cents.

[conuly]

It's not my comm. You can ask there, if you like, but...

I happen to like the site myself. Most people in that comm know what AS is and don't need yet another medical site that only lists all the terrible horrible things about asperger's/autism. It's nice to have a humorous site, especially one that isn't the ISNT.

Though that would explain the trolls. Some people have a hard time respecting others, and the whole no-cure emphasis of the comm must be devastating to their little-bitty minds.

Wow. I'm bitter. Sorry 'bout that.

[conuly]

Yes, quiet often works, but who can resist the chance to point out that Ur is really a dead city?

[conuly]

Oui.

[meghanx.livejournal.com]

i'm making a friends cut. im planing on cutting you because i don't read your journal often, and as far as i can tell, you never read mine.

unless you've been reading it and not commenting - which is NOT likely, then as far as i can tell, your not read it. in fact, i'm sure you really couldn't care less right about now. so sorry, but i'm deleting you from my friends list. if you want to be re-added.. just comment on the friends only page..




<3.

[yuki-onna.livejournal.com]

All I'm saying is that for trolls, that site gives them a reason, or what passes for a reason in their universe. Frankly, it confuses me, and I'm not a troll.

[conuly]

Actually, my commenting habits suck. NOBODY gets comments. My own sister doesn't get comments from me. But you don't need to tell me if you're taking me out of the friends list, I promise I won't be upset.

[conuly]

Yeah, I know. On the other hand, the determined trolls would do their trolling regardless.

How does the site confuse? *hasn't been there in a while*

[arazia.livejournal.com]

I'm not so much angry about the troll herself (as I've dealt with this specific one on other forums - was posting about animals needing adoption, yet posting pictures of cut-up animals in her personal journal and laughing at the animal-adoption folks). I'm angry because the girl who posted the original message thought she had done something wrong because of the troll's reaction.

What angers me most is when I feel like I'm under attack from one of the 'regulars' of the forum. I'm overweight, a geek, and I dress funny. I don't like being told to 'get a life' because I'm different. *sigh* I think I'm going to go eat lunch... that at least should keep me sane...

[yuki-onna.livejournal.com]

I can't understand, from that site, what the problem with having Aspergers is. It sounds like the problem with having Aspergers is. It sounds like a pretty good deal, from what he says. Nothing negative is mentioned, so how is it a syndrome to be smart and forthright and honest with a photographic memory?

(I know there must bemore to it,but from the site that:s all you get)

[yuki-onna.livejournal.com]

Sorry. funky Japanese keyboard. I pressed something that makes it repeat. :/

[meghanx.livejournal.com]

alright..

[ser-kai.livejournal.com]

That was why I was careful to remind people it was a troll & the best way to deal if you don't want to be baited.

That regular makes me feel like that too.
She doesn't realise body image is one of her own obsessions.
I've seen her pick apart skinny people on her LJ for stupid things like having a square butt or being older so we don't really stand a chance.

I hope my reply to her makes you feel better(if you read it).

[arazia.livejournal.com]

*nodsnods* It did, I'm okay, I ranted and raved in my own journal. I do that *sheepish*

I actually did a 'troll' warning post as the second post in reply to that, but the user deleted it -.- Erf...

[deathweasel.livejournal.com]

I miss nakedmen.

[redlami.livejournal.com]

hee hee, I hadn't thought about that.

[eh1steve.livejournal.com]

Quite honestly, what's got me curious is that we appear to have gotten two of them at once and I can't figure out how they're related. The usual trolls are smart enough to make fake accounts for it. These two were both using their real accounts. It seems pretty stupid to me.

I'm wondering if maybe something was posted elsewhere and they both just followed a link. If so, I'd really like to know where that link is.

[eh1steve.livejournal.com]

The problem is that it's a little hard to explain in terms the average person can understand why it's a problem. Aspies are generally nice people to begin with. The problem is that niceness isn't a particularly good thing in our world if you want to have a lot of friends and get along well. People don't decide if they want to like you based on how nice you are to them; they decide based on things like your tone of voice and your eye contact for the most part. In all honesty, people treat each other really crappy. There are a lot of rules to it too and the average aspie doesn't have a very easy time learning the right way to be terrible to another person. This is why we're stuck at home.

[conuly]

Well, to be fair, not all aspies are of above-average intelligence. It's just that AS is also not antithetical to above-average intelligence. And I don't think most aspies really do have photographic memories. That's hyperbole.

Forthrightness, though, is a euphimism for "bluntly abrupt honesty". That's the reason for the huge disclaimer on my user info, because people interpret my honesty as deliberate rudeness... but I can't be honest the way they like, and I won't lie.

And if that's all you got, then yes, there's a lot missing from the description. Problems with non-literal language comes to mind, and difficulty with "the unwritten rules of social behavior". Then there's a huge number of what are known as comorbid conditions, such as various agnosias, notably faceblindness (an inability or impairment in recognizing faces, even to the degree where you cannot recognize family members) and topographical agnosia (getting lost in places that should be familiar to you, not recognizing your house if you see it from a different location); problems with spacial/temporal awareness (not being able to know if it's a minute or an hour passing, not being able to accurately judge distance, having no sense of direction); dyspraxia (problems with fine and/or gross motor control, not being able to tie your shoes, or write neatly, or throw a ball); ocd-like symptoms.... well, it goes on. And on. And on and on and on.

[unico-love.livejournal.com]

Yes, that comment really disturbed me too (about geekiness and various characteristics). I read fanfic! So what? If people are happy with themselves, then why does it matter? And if they're *not* happy with themselves why make them feel worse? I didn't really see how that post applied.

[conuly]

I've seen her pick apart skinny people on her LJ for stupid things like having a square butt or being older so we don't really stand a chance.

What, so we're now supposed to kill ourselves at 30 so as to avoid offending her?

[moggymania.livejournal.com]

It's essentially like being left-handed.

In short, the problem is that society is built entirely centered around people with very different sensory/social needs from those of autistics, and it is full of individuals that are intolerant of anybody with a perceptible difference. There's nothing inherently wrong/broken/unhealthy with being autistic (or left-handed or both), but we're at a disadvantage in a society filled with bigots that insist we do everything as if we had their neurology rather than our own.

[staircase-wit.livejournal.com]

In a way, it sucks big donkey nuts to be autistic. We are often not seen as "winners" in life, and although our priorities may be different, we are enculturated. I know I'm never going to own a sports car. I know I'm never going to be seen as "suave." I'll always have difficulties relating to people. I'll also have executive dysfunction and alexithymia, which makes it very difficult to persue the correct course of action.