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The Good Folks at Conservapedia, concerned that as Christian conservatives they're being persecuted in the world today*, have decided to write their very own update of the KJV Bible.

You have to actually view their own website to fully appreciate the massive levels of fail that're going on here.

Just... wow.

*These people have clearly never been within 1500 feet of anything that even slightly whiffs of persecution or they wouldn't confuse "being the dominant religion and having the ability to surround themselves with people who think the same silly things they do" with "being persecuted".

From [profile] homasse. I'd say thanks, but it might be that I was better off not knowing.

Date: 2009-10-06 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
I know that many fundamentalists distrust anything other than KJV, for various reasons mentioned in that article, and I don't have a problem with that. However, a proper project of this sort would involve conservative-leaning Bible scholars fluent in the original languages, not a bunch of people trying to guess what the 17th-century CoE translators meant. This is like, well, expecting academic-quality articles from Wikipedia.

Date: 2009-10-06 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I. Can't even coherently express how many levels of stupid they are. Translating an English translation of an English translation of a Latin translation of a Greek translation of a Hebrew/Aramaic text is stupid enough on it's own, especially if you're going for accuracy.

Heaven help us all is all I can really say.

Date: 2009-10-06 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com
No kidding!

My stance on the Bible is that it was originally a series of texts inspired by people in a specific set of cultures who claimed the texts to be directly dictated by God - or perhaps not even that (the claim as The Word of God may well be more recent than the texts). And then they were PICKED THROUGH, what wasn't lost in the first place, and translated, with more cultural bits surely inserted.

I take it with "a pillar of salt" so to speak.

Unless we can find and understand the original texts, ALL of them, and consider the culture in which they were written, then MAYBE we can have a fuller understanding.

But if the nations of and around the Holy Land are constantly at war with each other (even back when the texts were written!) for power and prestige - and an overblown "sibling rivalry" - I hold little faith in resolving it to the satisfaction of zealous religious people.

Really, the only thing that could shatter my faith is finding out that only one of the Churches is right.

Are you talking about the KJV?

Date: 2009-10-06 06:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
an English translation of an English translation of a Latin translation of a Greek translation of a Hebrew/Aramaic text

Was that supposed to apply to the King James Version?

I thought it was "translated out of the original tongues", i.e. directly from the Hebrew/Aramaic (OT) or Greek (NT), rather than from the Latin Vulgate or the Greek Septuaginta or from another English translation of one of those.

Unless you're counting "with the former translations diligently compared and revised" as making up such a large proportion of the text that it counts as being _based_ on them?

I mean, I'm sure there are English translations of the Vulgate... but I thought the Jerusalem Bible was one of them, but it's apparently based on Hebrew and Greek too.

And there are English translations of English translations, I suppose; I imagine the NKJV qualifies for that.

But "KJV Classic", I think, doesn't fit your description at all well.

Re: Are you talking about the KJV?

Date: 2009-10-06 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
No, I'm talking about the "Conservative" bible. I have issues with the KJV translation as well, but those aren't the ones I'm talking about right now.

Date: 2009-10-06 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beezelbubbles.livejournal.com
I'm terrified of looking over there. But in a sort of coincidence, an Italian scientist thinks he knows how the Shroud of Turin was made. (Assuming it actually wasn't made by sucking up Jesus juices, that is...) http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091005/sc_nm/us_italy_shroud

Date: 2009-10-07 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedirita.livejournal.com
Eeek!

Good Lord, that looks like a spoof. Except - would spoofers spend so much time on such a site? Maybe.

"Free Market Principles"? Really?!?!?!?!

Date: 2009-10-07 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diatryma.livejournal.com
This has nothing to do with anything (I mean, yes, ridiculous, but it's not like I can snark better or more effectively than the rest of the internet) but Gargoyles icon? Happyface.

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