Blatantly stolen link
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http://www.livejournal.com/community/hamsters/278849.html?thread=1574721
I've mentioned before that vegans shouldn't have carnivorous pets. I'll mention it again. STICK TO RABBITS.
It's interesting, actually, that while this person says there's a huge difference between an animal hunting and an animal eating meat that's been raised in poor conditions, his reasons for not letting his cat out is "he would turn feral and hunt". Either there's a difference or there isn't.... *deep sigh*
Anyway, let's ignore that, and go to the funny part. Humans aren't animals! We're mammals!
That girl is damn stupid.*
Cats and Dogs don't need to hunt because, being domesticated, they don't have to.
Both cats and dogs were long bred to be hunters... cats doing mousing, dogs doing either dogfighting or hunting with people, or more mousing. Domestication doesn't come into it. Yes, YOUR cat and dog probably don't need to hunt, but that's not because they're domesticated, it's because they're fed. A cat or dog in the wild is still a member of a domesticated species, but they'll still hunt.
Arguments of "instinct", etc. as regards Cats and Dogs are a bit meaningless since being domesticated they are already out of their normal habitat to begin with.
A domesticated species is IN its natural habitat when it's with humans. Sorry, ducky.
Neither of those statements is particularily stupid, but saying humans aren't animals is. And then saying that they don't mean in the general sense but in a biological sense? *cracks up*
If you are speaking Biologically, yes there is a big difference between animals and mammals. Where there are some similarities between humans and animals definition-wise, there are also some very great differences-some of those include that humans have the ability to think and to reason whereas, have the ability to communicate on a much higher level than that of animals.
*shakes head in shame*
*I never edit or delete posts if I can help it, because it seems dishonest, but I've spoken to the girl in question, and she seems more ignorant than stupid. With a good reason, involving a lot of moving around and the public educational system. So, my apologies are offered.
I've mentioned before that vegans shouldn't have carnivorous pets. I'll mention it again. STICK TO RABBITS.
It's interesting, actually, that while this person says there's a huge difference between an animal hunting and an animal eating meat that's been raised in poor conditions, his reasons for not letting his cat out is "he would turn feral and hunt". Either there's a difference or there isn't.... *deep sigh*
Anyway, let's ignore that, and go to the funny part. Humans aren't animals! We're mammals!
That girl is damn stupid.*
Cats and Dogs don't need to hunt because, being domesticated, they don't have to.
Both cats and dogs were long bred to be hunters... cats doing mousing, dogs doing either dogfighting or hunting with people, or more mousing. Domestication doesn't come into it. Yes, YOUR cat and dog probably don't need to hunt, but that's not because they're domesticated, it's because they're fed. A cat or dog in the wild is still a member of a domesticated species, but they'll still hunt.
Arguments of "instinct", etc. as regards Cats and Dogs are a bit meaningless since being domesticated they are already out of their normal habitat to begin with.
A domesticated species is IN its natural habitat when it's with humans. Sorry, ducky.
Neither of those statements is particularily stupid, but saying humans aren't animals is. And then saying that they don't mean in the general sense but in a biological sense? *cracks up*
If you are speaking Biologically, yes there is a big difference between animals and mammals. Where there are some similarities between humans and animals definition-wise, there are also some very great differences-some of those include that humans have the ability to think and to reason whereas, have the ability to communicate on a much higher level than that of animals.
*shakes head in shame*
*I never edit or delete posts if I can help it, because it seems dishonest, but I've spoken to the girl in question, and she seems more ignorant than stupid. With a good reason, involving a lot of moving around and the public educational system. So, my apologies are offered.
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Date: 2004-03-24 09:20 am (UTC)As much as I like biology, i'm MUCH better with computers! lol
I think that guy was just making it up as he went along. He was certainly being defensive. I don't think he really expected most of the responses he got.
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Date: 2004-03-24 09:27 am (UTC)I should warn you, then, you got on
I think that guy was just making it up as he went along. He was certainly being defensive. I don't think he really expected most of the responses he got.
Oh, I know. He got so many responses because the thread's on LJ Drama and... somewhere else. It's just everywhere. They seem to have ignored our little foray into insultville, though.
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Date: 2004-03-24 10:41 am (UTC)Luckily, I CAN (and often do) laugh at myself. I know i'm far from perfect. If anything, this whole thing is just amusing at this point. At this point i've pretty much moved on, but I will take a moment to post there what I posted to you.
That community so high volume, i'm sure it will be forgotten soon enough.
(btw, I love your icon-it's really cool)
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Date: 2004-03-24 05:43 pm (UTC)You're evil, you know that. Nice people make people like me feel bad. Still, glad we're all settled and can be friendly. Sometimes things don't end well (and sometimes people really are stupid)
And I love my icon too. The base is by
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Date: 2004-03-25 04:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-25 04:18 pm (UTC)