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That's "how people view Christians" not "how Christians perceive things". Whether or not these perceptions are accurate for Christianity-as-a-whole is irrelevant. This is about how people in the US view Christians, probably because the loudest, most visible Christians really do present themselves this way. (They're the ones who'll never get the message, of course, which is a pity.)

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Date: 2007-10-14 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] collectonian.livejournal.com
Alas, it is quite true. Those loud, obnoxious, folks give Christians who actually do attempt to life out their faith a bad name with their decidedly unChristian like manners. Blech. Alas, those who yap loudest and most publically are the ones who will form most other people's impressions. :(

Date: 2007-10-14 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
I really don't care for the tone of the blog writer, but the study was quite interesting.

Date: 2007-10-14 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com
I really DO hope this becomes more of a trend toward a "Jesus-centered Christian" style among those of the Christian faith and a reiteration nationwide of "freedom of religion" and "separation of church and state."

When I was still an atheist, I read the Bible all the way through "to see what the big deal was." I read it through again twice as a Christian, both the KJV and the NLT.

It's a long, rather boring series that has lots of contradictions and outdated issues/philosphies. LOTS of it still applies for good reason, as there ARE some serious wisdoms within. But I think the "loud right wing" has made a big deal of things that Jesus didn't even mention (and some things they're doing He even OPPOSED). *sigh* Can't we all just get along? (of course through the millenia it's been pretty well shown we can't :-/) I'm more Wiccan than mainline Cristian in my view of "an' ye harm none, do as you will." And what ever happened to "love thy neighbor" anyway?

If anything, assuming God does exist, any personal decision is between that person and God, so long as they're not hurting someone. I don't know what to think about abortions other than I think they should still be legal in cases of need (at least), and I don't know yet if I think it's any worse than killing an animal for food or eradicating an insect or parasitic pest. I can't think of any Christian who would object to doing the latter (even PETA Christians in the case of parasites...though I think they'd have issues with the OT God).

*shuts up for now*

Date: 2007-10-15 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedirita.livejournal.com
I've heard about that study. I'm not entirely sure I agree with how the blogger analyzed it - for example, I think s/he is perhaps premature in proclaiming this study as the death knell of arch-conservative Christianity. Also, I'm not entirely sure that the United States will ever become a bastion of atheism, at least not like Europe. But I do hope the blogger is right in saying that we might see a renaissance of the social gospel movement. And I say it's about time.

Date: 2007-10-14 04:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Alas, it is quite true. Those loud, obnoxious, folks give Christians who actually do attempt to life out their faith a bad name with their decidedly unChristian like manners. Blech. Alas, those who yap loudest and most publically are the ones who will form most other people's impressions. :(

Date: 2007-10-14 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
I really don't care for the tone of the blog writer, but the study was quite interesting.

Date: 2007-10-14 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com
I really DO hope this becomes more of a trend toward a "Jesus-centered Christian" style among those of the Christian faith and a reiteration nationwide of "freedom of religion" and "separation of church and state."

When I was still an atheist, I read the Bible all the way through "to see what the big deal was." I read it through again twice as a Christian, both the KJV and the NLT.

It's a long, rather boring series that has lots of contradictions and outdated issues/philosphies. LOTS of it still applies for good reason, as there ARE some serious wisdoms within. But I think the "loud right wing" has made a big deal of things that Jesus didn't even mention (and some things they're doing He even OPPOSED). *sigh* Can't we all just get along? (of course through the millenia it's been pretty well shown we can't :-/) I'm more Wiccan than mainline Cristian in my view of "an' ye harm none, do as you will." And what ever happened to "love thy neighbor" anyway?

If anything, assuming God does exist, any personal decision is between that person and God, so long as they're not hurting someone. I don't know what to think about abortions other than I think they should still be legal in cases of need (at least), and I don't know yet if I think it's any worse than killing an animal for food or eradicating an insect or parasitic pest. I can't think of any Christian who would object to doing the latter (even PETA Christians in the case of parasites...though I think they'd have issues with the OT God).

*shuts up for now*

Date: 2007-10-15 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedirita.livejournal.com
I've heard about that study. I'm not entirely sure I agree with how the blogger analyzed it - for example, I think s/he is perhaps premature in proclaiming this study as the death knell of arch-conservative Christianity. Also, I'm not entirely sure that the United States will ever become a bastion of atheism, at least not like Europe. But I do hope the blogger is right in saying that we might see a renaissance of the social gospel movement. And I say it's about time.

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