Date: 2007-06-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
I am sad too about the lack of elementary school teachers that are male.

And let me tell you, I volunteer at Fin's school but when Dan shows up (like for the party, or when we went with them on the class trip or whatever) they FLOCK tom him.

"IT'S FINBAR'S DAD!"

Especially since so few have dads in their lives.

I'm glad that Fin has one mentor, and one for engineering, too. His mentor (both of them work with other kids) is a former scout leader, and he talked the engineer into mentoring as well. I'm glad they do, the school is age k-5.

But it is a very real fear. They sat us in the back of the bus, all the teachers were up front, and the kids were OBSESSED with the bathroom and when one kid was acting up, Dan turned to him, and although it was physically impossible to see from where Dan was sitting, this little punk (a class troublemaker, I know, I'm there all the time) started screaming "FINBARS DAD WAS LOOKING IN THE BATHROOM AND SAW JANES PRIVATES!" Seriously. Dan just said "no I didn't" and that was the end of it, and the school didn't even say anything but seriously, what the hell? Kids know it is a weapon and they are NOT AFRAID TO USE IT.

Date: 2007-06-02 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
Of course "young" is relative. I couldn't work in an elementary school. Not because I'm attracted to the little squirts (I'm not) but because they're little squirts that drive me batshit crazy.

Junior high and high school I could work. The problem is, those girls are effing HOT!

Date: 2007-06-02 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
He didn't even tell a teacher -- it was just yelled in the back of the bus and even his classmates just ignored him. We didn't even bring it up with the teacher, we had to go home, and nothing was said when we went back so it should be ok.

Oh and the school system here does background checks before you ever set foot in the school, and interviews you if minor things come up but I am sure some things are an automatic bar. And if you are to drive on a class trip, you need to, every time, show current license and proof of insurance, on top of the background check. His school is on pretty heavy lockdown too, a bit less than a decade ago someone got in and raped a little girl. :(

New administration, new rules, new security. They even yell at you if you let someone 'tailgate' (let someone in after you've been buzzed in).

Kids really need strong male and female role models and it is a shame that not only is time (since many men work during the day, more SAHM than SAHD) a problem but so is concerns about sex abuse/accusations of it.

Date: 2007-06-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
Junior high? Eek. I can't remember anybody being attractive at 14.

Date: 2007-06-09 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I don't know. Fourteen year old girls these days...they look like 20-somethings (on purpose!) around here.

And at fourteen, we won't exactly get into what *I* was doing. :/

Its just in some places, 14 is a lot older than other places. Say, the difference between New York City (current times) and Middle-of-nowhere, Oklahoma (current times).

Date: 2007-06-09 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I understand where this is coming from.

When we have things at church, or at our house involving people from our church, obviously their kids (and ours when home) are involved. For thanksgiving (my first in my own place cooking, OMG!!!) we invited over everyone from church who didn't have family elsewhere. That meant we had 2 little girls, and 3 boys, all 10 and under (one 10 year old, 1 four year old, 2 three year olds, and 1 two year old). Oh, and I'd like to point out I cooked an ENTIRE thanksgiving meal. Turkey, and ALL the home fixings, even gramma's stuffing, and baked mac and cheese!

Chris gets kinda uncomfortable when the kids (mostly the little girls) are climbing all over him, because he is scared of when he's wrestling with all the kids (the girls are tomboys in dresses, really) his hand may go somewhere wrong, and OMG BIG PROBLEM. It makes him worry a lot, and not want to go near them much. The bad thing is, he LOVES kids! He'd spend his day all day with them playing. But he's afraid of being branded a sicko.

And thankfully, no one worries because everyone knows chris would be chopping off parts of his anatomy before touching a child wrongly. :)

Date: 2007-06-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
I am sad too about the lack of elementary school teachers that are male.

And let me tell you, I volunteer at Fin's school but when Dan shows up (like for the party, or when we went with them on the class trip or whatever) they FLOCK tom him.

"IT'S FINBAR'S DAD!"

Especially since so few have dads in their lives.

I'm glad that Fin has one mentor, and one for engineering, too. His mentor (both of them work with other kids) is a former scout leader, and he talked the engineer into mentoring as well. I'm glad they do, the school is age k-5.

But it is a very real fear. They sat us in the back of the bus, all the teachers were up front, and the kids were OBSESSED with the bathroom and when one kid was acting up, Dan turned to him, and although it was physically impossible to see from where Dan was sitting, this little punk (a class troublemaker, I know, I'm there all the time) started screaming "FINBARS DAD WAS LOOKING IN THE BATHROOM AND SAW JANES PRIVATES!" Seriously. Dan just said "no I didn't" and that was the end of it, and the school didn't even say anything but seriously, what the hell? Kids know it is a weapon and they are NOT AFRAID TO USE IT.

Date: 2007-06-02 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com
Of course "young" is relative. I couldn't work in an elementary school. Not because I'm attracted to the little squirts (I'm not) but because they're little squirts that drive me batshit crazy.

Junior high and high school I could work. The problem is, those girls are effing HOT!

Date: 2007-06-02 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
He didn't even tell a teacher -- it was just yelled in the back of the bus and even his classmates just ignored him. We didn't even bring it up with the teacher, we had to go home, and nothing was said when we went back so it should be ok.

Oh and the school system here does background checks before you ever set foot in the school, and interviews you if minor things come up but I am sure some things are an automatic bar. And if you are to drive on a class trip, you need to, every time, show current license and proof of insurance, on top of the background check. His school is on pretty heavy lockdown too, a bit less than a decade ago someone got in and raped a little girl. :(

New administration, new rules, new security. They even yell at you if you let someone 'tailgate' (let someone in after you've been buzzed in).

Kids really need strong male and female role models and it is a shame that not only is time (since many men work during the day, more SAHM than SAHD) a problem but so is concerns about sex abuse/accusations of it.

Date: 2007-06-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
Junior high? Eek. I can't remember anybody being attractive at 14.

Date: 2007-06-09 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I don't know. Fourteen year old girls these days...they look like 20-somethings (on purpose!) around here.

And at fourteen, we won't exactly get into what *I* was doing. :/

Its just in some places, 14 is a lot older than other places. Say, the difference between New York City (current times) and Middle-of-nowhere, Oklahoma (current times).

Date: 2007-06-09 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
I understand where this is coming from.

When we have things at church, or at our house involving people from our church, obviously their kids (and ours when home) are involved. For thanksgiving (my first in my own place cooking, OMG!!!) we invited over everyone from church who didn't have family elsewhere. That meant we had 2 little girls, and 3 boys, all 10 and under (one 10 year old, 1 four year old, 2 three year olds, and 1 two year old). Oh, and I'd like to point out I cooked an ENTIRE thanksgiving meal. Turkey, and ALL the home fixings, even gramma's stuffing, and baked mac and cheese!

Chris gets kinda uncomfortable when the kids (mostly the little girls) are climbing all over him, because he is scared of when he's wrestling with all the kids (the girls are tomboys in dresses, really) his hand may go somewhere wrong, and OMG BIG PROBLEM. It makes him worry a lot, and not want to go near them much. The bad thing is, he LOVES kids! He'd spend his day all day with them playing. But he's afraid of being branded a sicko.

And thankfully, no one worries because everyone knows chris would be chopping off parts of his anatomy before touching a child wrongly. :)

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