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I've been busy, and frankly, a little depressed. Which is bad for me, and means I need to cut out news.

I expected that if anything major happened, my friends list would all be howling about it.

So when I see only two or three posts about this, I'm left wondering. It sounds bad to me - it sounds horrible, in fact - but I'm not seeing a lot of posting about it. Nobody much know about this? Everybody's not paying attention to the news? I'm skimming a hell of a lot more than I should? Something I've missed here?

What the hell has been going on while I played with the niecelings?

Date: 2006-10-01 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
I don't know offhand who's on *your* friends' list, but mine has been so full of it I haven't seen any reason to post on it in detail, myself.

My money's on civil war, at this point.

best,

Joel

Date: 2006-10-01 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
I think the best way to sum up why you haven't been seeing it is this: outrage fatigue. And shock.

I still can't come up with words to talk about it because I'm unable to even approach it rationally in my own head. I'm sort of weighted down with despair and depression, and there's really nothing left over. This is my Room 101.

Date: 2006-10-01 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
When I can come up with something more coherent to say than "Lynch the bastards!" I shall do so.

best,

Joel

Date: 2006-10-01 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
Check [profile] bradhicks or [personal profile] theweaselking. Wil Wheaton had a near perfect post on it as well recently.

Date: 2006-10-01 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
No, it's not. On the other hand, as I said, I can't even begin to approach the news you cited. What's going on in [livejournal.com profile] lj_biz is at least something I can deal with and feel safe enough to deal with.

Here's some links. Reading is the most I've been able to do.

William Rivers Pitt, "In Case I Disappear (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906J.shtml)."

The Guardian (UK), "Senate Backs Bush Over Terror Suspects (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1883927,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1)."

Maccabe (The Daily Kos), "The Cabbie: Another Incredible Story. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/29/13314/2260#c20)"

John Scalzi, "Whatever: On Moral Cowardice. (http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/004498.html)"

Dave Lindorff (The Nation), "War Signals? (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff)"

Aziz Huq (Huffington Post via AlterNet), "Sayonara to Checks and Balances? (http://www.alternet.org/rights/42345/)"

Buzzflash Editorial, "It's Mourning in America. (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorials/100)"

Date: 2006-10-01 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com
I think (as a foreigner who's seeing a fair bit about this, and is posting himself) that the General American Public maybe asleep at this point. The administration has spun this bill fairly successfully as a compromise, and isn't Habeas Corpus some funny foreign language? What is it, French or something?

*gloom*

Date: 2006-10-02 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Because I can't read news articles in a style that makes them easy to read, and so it takes much, much more effort to read anything off LJ. And I have had no time and I'm very tired.

I did comment about the October Surprise (ships to Iran) thing in the lj_biz post though, well in the first one.

Date: 2006-10-02 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com
I think an above commenter hit it just about right for me..."outrage fatigue." So much stupid crap is going on worldwide, nationally, locally (GAH the STUPID Tennessee government candidates! they ALL blow monkey turds!), and personally...I've just been driven more into seclusion except to engage in fun mind-absorbing all-day activities with groups of people that are a mixture of smart but silly and scary but not very bright...and I certainly don't have to worry about THEM making catastrophic world-altering "mistakes"...at least not yet even if it were likely at all.

I'm hardly online a fraction as much as I usually am lately, and that directly correlates with my time on LJ. And the news has hardened and numbed and scared me off from wanting to read or hear any more of it. It's just overwhelming, and I've shut it out not entirely on purpose.

Date: 2006-10-01 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
I don't know offhand who's on *your* friends' list, but mine has been so full of it I haven't seen any reason to post on it in detail, myself.

My money's on civil war, at this point.

best,

Joel

Date: 2006-10-01 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
I think the best way to sum up why you haven't been seeing it is this: outrage fatigue. And shock.

I still can't come up with words to talk about it because I'm unable to even approach it rationally in my own head. I'm sort of weighted down with despair and depression, and there's really nothing left over. This is my Room 101.

Date: 2006-10-01 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
When I can come up with something more coherent to say than "Lynch the bastards!" I shall do so.

best,

Joel

Date: 2006-10-01 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
Check [profile] bradhicks or [personal profile] theweaselking. Wil Wheaton had a near perfect post on it as well recently.

Date: 2006-10-01 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griffen.livejournal.com
No, it's not. On the other hand, as I said, I can't even begin to approach the news you cited. What's going on in [livejournal.com profile] lj_biz is at least something I can deal with and feel safe enough to deal with.

Here's some links. Reading is the most I've been able to do.

William Rivers Pitt, "In Case I Disappear (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092906J.shtml)."

The Guardian (UK), "Senate Backs Bush Over Terror Suspects (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1883927,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1)."

Maccabe (The Daily Kos), "The Cabbie: Another Incredible Story. (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/29/13314/2260#c20)"

John Scalzi, "Whatever: On Moral Cowardice. (http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/004498.html)"

Dave Lindorff (The Nation), "War Signals? (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061009/lindorff)"

Aziz Huq (Huffington Post via AlterNet), "Sayonara to Checks and Balances? (http://www.alternet.org/rights/42345/)"

Buzzflash Editorial, "It's Mourning in America. (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorials/100)"

Date: 2006-10-01 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caprinus.livejournal.com
I think (as a foreigner who's seeing a fair bit about this, and is posting himself) that the General American Public maybe asleep at this point. The administration has spun this bill fairly successfully as a compromise, and isn't Habeas Corpus some funny foreign language? What is it, French or something?

*gloom*

Date: 2006-10-02 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Because I can't read news articles in a style that makes them easy to read, and so it takes much, much more effort to read anything off LJ. And I have had no time and I'm very tired.

I did comment about the October Surprise (ships to Iran) thing in the lj_biz post though, well in the first one.

Date: 2006-10-02 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com
I think an above commenter hit it just about right for me..."outrage fatigue." So much stupid crap is going on worldwide, nationally, locally (GAH the STUPID Tennessee government candidates! they ALL blow monkey turds!), and personally...I've just been driven more into seclusion except to engage in fun mind-absorbing all-day activities with groups of people that are a mixture of smart but silly and scary but not very bright...and I certainly don't have to worry about THEM making catastrophic world-altering "mistakes"...at least not yet even if it were likely at all.

I'm hardly online a fraction as much as I usually am lately, and that directly correlates with my time on LJ. And the news has hardened and numbed and scared me off from wanting to read or hear any more of it. It's just overwhelming, and I've shut it out not entirely on purpose.

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