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Date: 2006-05-12 01:20 am (UTC)But then, what do we expect from an organization started by a fundamentalist Christian to indoctrinate young boys into fundamentalist Christianity? The core may be about basic values like integrity and honor, but IME the Scouts along with the rest of the fundamentalist faiths have forgotten what those things mean. And I doubt they honestly care.
Bastards. I'm glad I got out when I did, and I only wish I'd done it sooner.
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Date: 2006-05-12 01:35 am (UTC)If you don't agree with a group, or expect a group to agree with you - don't join in the first place.
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Date: 2006-05-12 01:49 am (UTC)More to the point, they've specifically stated - their rules, not mine - that a belief in *any* deity, not just the Judeo-Christian one, is enough. So, following their rules, these boys *do* agree with it.
Normally, I'd agree with you, though - I'm really posting to point out the silliness of the idea that these two, yearlong members, were suddenly accused of potentially trying to convert people. Because I've never met a Wiccan who wanted me to hear the Truth, but I get that from random Christians... often enough, anyway. And after a year, these boys were unlikely to suddenly become obsessed with converting their troop.
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Date: 2006-05-12 02:25 am (UTC)And it's not the Boys Scouts association that was afraid of the kids preaching - it was specific parents. And we all know how stupid parents are.
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Date: 2006-05-12 01:52 am (UTC)The Boy Scouts IS primarily a Judeo-Christian group.
The key word is "primarily". The Christian part isn't supposed to be exclusive; they claim to promote tolerance for people of all religions. Christianity is NOT supposed to be the whole point, if you accept what they say their beliefs are.
If you don't agree with a group, or expect a group to agree with you - don't join in the first place.
First off, most children don't have any idea what they agree or don't agree with except to parrot what their parents have taught them. Expecting them to make that kind of a decision is hardly realistic.
Second, when a group of people pick on someone for no better reason than their religion THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT. Implying it's the kids' fault for being non-Christian is blaming him for the fact that the Boy Scouts isn't living up to its own damn philosophy.
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Date: 2006-05-12 02:14 am (UTC)The Boys Scouts have a committee that determines whether or not a group is appropriate. Likely this matter will get bumped up to them and in a few weeks/months/years we'll get an official stance on Boy Scouts and Wiccans.
You're right, this does suck for the kids. But it's not their fault - it's their parents. THEY should have been the ones smart enough to see the problem here.
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Date: 2006-05-12 02:22 am (UTC)And I'm sorry, but it's not the parents' fault that the Boy Scouts aren't living up to their own philosophy either.
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Date: 2006-05-12 02:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-12 02:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-12 12:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-12 06:18 pm (UTC)And, well, it is wrong.
Likely this matter will get bumped up to them and in a few weeks/months/years we'll get an official stance on Boy Scouts and Wiccans.
That worked so well with the Boy Scouts' official position on gays.
You're right, this does suck for the kids. But it's not their fault - it's their parents. THEY should have been the ones smart enough to see the problem here.
Which parents? The bigoted parents, or the former Eagle Scout who sent his kids to scouting even though they're OMG WICCANS?
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Date: 2006-05-12 06:16 pm (UTC)