So, I was going to post a silly letter-to-the-editor found in customers_suck

[conuly]

But now I see there's a little something to offend everyone!

Tis the season! Here we go again with the offenses.

Instead of bowing to the complaints of a few, why don't the powers that be go by the wishes of the majority? Practices of generations that are decent and bring joy and anticipation are, a little at a time, prohibited.

We are a democracy where the majority is supposed to rule. Did Webster get it wrong or did we?

Without any specifics, I can't comment, but I strongly suspect that this is another person who thinks that her special rights aren't so special after all. And who has clearly never heard of the "tyranny of the majority".

I read with a good deal of delight the Nov. 24 letter "Church punished for loyalty to God." I couldn't agree more with the writer's analysis of the situation involving All Saints Episcopal Church in Irondequoit.

The Rochester Episcopal Diocese has taken political correctness to a ridiculous level with its position on marriage. The diocese has endorsed the subculture in our society that embraces nontraditional marriage arrangements.

I can only applaud the courage that the All Saints congregation has displayed by standing tall in its defiance of the church's politically correct nonsense.

It is apparent that the congregation could no longer stomach the diocese's breach of the church's traditional moral codes. It appears that moral principles prevailed over the questionable structure of the Episcopal Church at large.

As a lifelong Episcopalian, I cringe at what is happening to the moral codes within my church.

Because, of course, the choice the diocese made had nothing to do with morals - say, the morals that involve tolerance and equality....

This happens often when I go to a fast food place or the supermarket. The worker or cashier is in a miserable mood. It is almost as if they are mad at you for going there. Then, if you ask a question or want paper instead of plastic, they make sure to let you know what a pain you are being.

I have gotten so angry at people like this that I speak up now. It is their job to be performing this service. If they are unhappy, then they should do something else with their lives. People need to put on smiles or at least act as if they do not mind doing what they are doing. A simple "Hello, how are you?" and a smile is all it takes. I am sick of having to deal with their bad moods.

This is so absurd... if people working at a fast food place or a supermarket for low wages could do something else, don't you think they would? Most people don't choose those careers because of the fun!

Why should people put on a smile to appease people who clearly care more about appearances than how fast their food gets handled? I don't like it when people criticise me for not smiling. I can only imagine it'd be worse if people felt they *deserved* to criticise me for it.

Note to self: I never, ever, EVER want to move upstate.

Comments

[distaff-exile.livejournal.com]

I live there.

The so-and-so who thinks the Episcopalians are too politically correct lives, at most, twenty minutes from me. I went to school in Honeoye Falls.

And yes, it doth suck mightily to be different in Honeoye Falls.

On the C_S one: *slaps the customer with a dead fish* Lady, you already look down on us proles because we're serving you -- no, don't try to say you don't, I know the attitudes of your kind! I went to school with mini-versions! If you think we're gonna bow and scrape and say "Yes, massa, yes, ma'am" when you want us to smile, you're living in the antebellum South. *spits*

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

I noticed another potential wank in C_S today, as a waitress was complaining about making a small amount in tips (like $2 on a $40 bill or something). Cue someone making a trolly comment about how she should be glad she gets tipped at all, blah blah tipping isn't required, STFU. Commenter is from England, waitress is working in the US. I think we see the problem here.

And then someone jumps in with "well, if your job doesn't pay enough, just get a new one that pays better." Nothing cues the bitchslap instinct in me like "well, just get another job." Because everyone can automatically waltz out of their job and find one that pays far above minimum wage and comes with great medical and dental.

Why are people so dumb?

[conuly]

1. Must be nice to live someplace where minimum wage means just that. And the minimum wage is enough to, y'know, live on.

2. Why are people so dumb?

To give people with nothing to say something to talk about. Apparently.

[maelorin]

(1) it would be, wouldn't it. our fabulous federal governemnt is rapidly rushing australia towards a usa-style economy because "competitiveness" is all important. not people, not the lives of the voters, the consumers.

(2) thinking is hard. and it hurties.

a large part of the problem is that too many people have no concept of other people's lives. they're all wrapped up in their own selfish little worlds. they not only cannot appreciate someone else's perspective, they don't realise that there are other perspectives.

thanks baby boomer's parents. all that pampering was really worth it.

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

1. Seriously. I really am tempted to do post-grad here and just stay. Even working as a waitress or something, I would make a decent wage and be guaranteed healthcare. Yes, everyone complains about the NHS and how inefficient it is, but something is better than nothing, after all, isn't it?

2. Guess so.

[wodhaund.livejournal.com]

Sadly, my goal in life is to end up with a job where I don't have to see people. Because I hate them. And that kind of reaction is the reason why.

[maelorin]

i've had the extreme joy of being able to tell stupid consumers™ exactly what i think of them.

that was very rewarding.

you should have seen their ugly little faces ... *grin*

[wodhaund.livejournal.com]

D: You are my hero! I wish I could get away with that, but alas. I cannot.

[maelorin]

my boss had made the mistake of telling me i wouldn't be workign there anymore after the shift - and we were too short-handed for him to kick me out.

i was so childish and rude. i had a ball.

[rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com]

Once, many years ago, I was terminated from a volunteer position (one that didn't involve any contact with the public) because I didn't look happy. I had explained to the volunteer coordinator that I had just been through a nasty breakup, and that the work helped take my mind off it. Apparently that didn't matter; I was supposed to look happy to be working there. I wish I'd just said something like, "I have CLINICAL DEPRESSION, for fuck's sake!" Or maybe, "I don't look happy because you keep bugging me about looking happy."

[conuly]

Ugh. It's not enough to just do the damn job, is it?

[maelorin]

if the webster defines democracy as "majority rule" no wonder your fine nation is so ... well ... problematic?

it's sadly amusing to hear so many "christians" going about the place being so uncompassionate. methinks guy-on-a-stick™ would be shocked to see what his little effort to reform judaism had begotten.

i wonder if he'd been so cheerful when he appeared on the mount if her realised just how badly his disciples, and later followers, would use his efforts for their own interests ...


as for the c_s darling, that arrogance has been bred back into the unnecessarily wealthy by the parents of the baby boomers. they expect but they won't contribute. they simply cannot concieve that anyones lives could be different form their own. they've lost that most important prerequistite to compassion: being able to see things from someone else's point of view - and empathise with them. they confuse their self-righteous "sympathy" for compassionate "empathy" and are too arrogant to care that there might be a difference.

we get the same shit down here in australia. increasingly so from kids and young adults who have never been refused anything they ask for.

it's a huge shock to realise that the big bad world simply doesn't give a damn about them ...

[conuly]

Oh, honestly! We don't even *have* a damn democracy, despite claims to the contrary. And no, I'm not being cynical and snarky, I'm being truthful - our government is a republic. It's different. And we have a system of checks and balances, including the judicial system, part of the purpose of which is to prevent Tyranny of the Majority! Duh!

[maelorin]

you have a "representative federal democracy" kind of government somewhat like ours. or, ours is somewhat like yours. only wired up the other way around. not that our federal government isn't doing it's damnedest to become more like yours.

i know how hard it can be for some people to understand what each of those words means, and how that's supposed to work (i've tried).

unfortunately, the herd of mundanes is much happier living in pig shit than thinking. let alone thinking about anyone else.

though i hear the rumblings of discontent getting louder all the time. too bad the mundanes only recently voted the idiots back in - here and in your fine warzone. i mean democracy.

[maelorin]

the usa is a democracy because the people are the source of authority to govern. it is a representative democracy because the same sheeple get to choose represenatives to do the actual governing. that falls apart because of the parties hijacking the system. we have the same 'dilemma' here.

republic relates to the way government is structure, organised. the democracy bit is about who does the governing. it's the collapse of the "representative" that has broken the game.

since the bunch in power™ can't understand anyone else's point of view, they cannot see why their position is so poisonous.

neither democracy, nor republic, is about "majority rule" ... and since a good many of the bods in and behind the positions of power are lawyers, they know that. and they're taking advantage of (and commending) other people's ignorance.

the 'checks and balances' are the very things that the current power bloc are dismantling ...

[fjorab-teke.livejournal.com]

I have some friends who were raised Episcopal and are very gay-tolerant. I was relieved to find out, even though I figured they wouldn't have a problem with homosexuality (just due to their general natures). Not all Episcopals, apparently, are hateful and Bible-literary.

I like what the United Church of Christ's webpage stated, something like "in order to take the Bible seriously, sometimes we cannot take it literally."

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

I like what the United Church of Christ's webpage stated, something like "in order to take the Bible seriously, sometimes we cannot take it literally."

That is quite possibly one of the smartest things I have ever heard. Yay them. :)

[distaff-exile.livejournal.com]

I live there.

The so-and-so who thinks the Episcopalians are too politically correct lives, at most, twenty minutes from me. I went to school in Honeoye Falls.

And yes, it doth suck mightily to be different in Honeoye Falls.

On the C_S one: *slaps the customer with a dead fish* Lady, you already look down on us proles because we're serving you -- no, don't try to say you don't, I know the attitudes of your kind! I went to school with mini-versions! If you think we're gonna bow and scrape and say "Yes, massa, yes, ma'am" when you want us to smile, you're living in the antebellum South. *spits*

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

I noticed another potential wank in C_S today, as a waitress was complaining about making a small amount in tips (like $2 on a $40 bill or something). Cue someone making a trolly comment about how she should be glad she gets tipped at all, blah blah tipping isn't required, STFU. Commenter is from England, waitress is working in the US. I think we see the problem here.

And then someone jumps in with "well, if your job doesn't pay enough, just get a new one that pays better." Nothing cues the bitchslap instinct in me like "well, just get another job." Because everyone can automatically waltz out of their job and find one that pays far above minimum wage and comes with great medical and dental.

Why are people so dumb?

[conuly]

1. Must be nice to live someplace where minimum wage means just that. And the minimum wage is enough to, y'know, live on.

2. Why are people so dumb?

To give people with nothing to say something to talk about. Apparently.

[maelorin]

(1) it would be, wouldn't it. our fabulous federal governemnt is rapidly rushing australia towards a usa-style economy because "competitiveness" is all important. not people, not the lives of the voters, the consumers.

(2) thinking is hard. and it hurties.

a large part of the problem is that too many people have no concept of other people's lives. they're all wrapped up in their own selfish little worlds. they not only cannot appreciate someone else's perspective, they don't realise that there are other perspectives.

thanks baby boomer's parents. all that pampering was really worth it.

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

1. Seriously. I really am tempted to do post-grad here and just stay. Even working as a waitress or something, I would make a decent wage and be guaranteed healthcare. Yes, everyone complains about the NHS and how inefficient it is, but something is better than nothing, after all, isn't it?

2. Guess so.

[wodhaund.livejournal.com]

Sadly, my goal in life is to end up with a job where I don't have to see people. Because I hate them. And that kind of reaction is the reason why.

[maelorin]

i've had the extreme joy of being able to tell stupid consumers™ exactly what i think of them.

that was very rewarding.

you should have seen their ugly little faces ... *grin*

[wodhaund.livejournal.com]

D: You are my hero! I wish I could get away with that, but alas. I cannot.

[maelorin]

my boss had made the mistake of telling me i wouldn't be workign there anymore after the shift - and we were too short-handed for him to kick me out.

i was so childish and rude. i had a ball.

[rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com]

Once, many years ago, I was terminated from a volunteer position (one that didn't involve any contact with the public) because I didn't look happy. I had explained to the volunteer coordinator that I had just been through a nasty breakup, and that the work helped take my mind off it. Apparently that didn't matter; I was supposed to look happy to be working there. I wish I'd just said something like, "I have CLINICAL DEPRESSION, for fuck's sake!" Or maybe, "I don't look happy because you keep bugging me about looking happy."

[conuly]

Ugh. It's not enough to just do the damn job, is it?

[maelorin]

if the webster defines democracy as "majority rule" no wonder your fine nation is so ... well ... problematic?

it's sadly amusing to hear so many "christians" going about the place being so uncompassionate. methinks guy-on-a-stick™ would be shocked to see what his little effort to reform judaism had begotten.

i wonder if he'd been so cheerful when he appeared on the mount if her realised just how badly his disciples, and later followers, would use his efforts for their own interests ...


as for the c_s darling, that arrogance has been bred back into the unnecessarily wealthy by the parents of the baby boomers. they expect but they won't contribute. they simply cannot concieve that anyones lives could be different form their own. they've lost that most important prerequistite to compassion: being able to see things from someone else's point of view - and empathise with them. they confuse their self-righteous "sympathy" for compassionate "empathy" and are too arrogant to care that there might be a difference.

we get the same shit down here in australia. increasingly so from kids and young adults who have never been refused anything they ask for.

it's a huge shock to realise that the big bad world simply doesn't give a damn about them ...

[conuly]

Oh, honestly! We don't even *have* a damn democracy, despite claims to the contrary. And no, I'm not being cynical and snarky, I'm being truthful - our government is a republic. It's different. And we have a system of checks and balances, including the judicial system, part of the purpose of which is to prevent Tyranny of the Majority! Duh!

[maelorin]

you have a "representative federal democracy" kind of government somewhat like ours. or, ours is somewhat like yours. only wired up the other way around. not that our federal government isn't doing it's damnedest to become more like yours.

i know how hard it can be for some people to understand what each of those words means, and how that's supposed to work (i've tried).

unfortunately, the herd of mundanes is much happier living in pig shit than thinking. let alone thinking about anyone else.

though i hear the rumblings of discontent getting louder all the time. too bad the mundanes only recently voted the idiots back in - here and in your fine warzone. i mean democracy.

[maelorin]

the usa is a democracy because the people are the source of authority to govern. it is a representative democracy because the same sheeple get to choose represenatives to do the actual governing. that falls apart because of the parties hijacking the system. we have the same 'dilemma' here.

republic relates to the way government is structure, organised. the democracy bit is about who does the governing. it's the collapse of the "representative" that has broken the game.

since the bunch in power™ can't understand anyone else's point of view, they cannot see why their position is so poisonous.

neither democracy, nor republic, is about "majority rule" ... and since a good many of the bods in and behind the positions of power are lawyers, they know that. and they're taking advantage of (and commending) other people's ignorance.

the 'checks and balances' are the very things that the current power bloc are dismantling ...

[fjorab-teke.livejournal.com]

I have some friends who were raised Episcopal and are very gay-tolerant. I was relieved to find out, even though I figured they wouldn't have a problem with homosexuality (just due to their general natures). Not all Episcopals, apparently, are hateful and Bible-literary.

I like what the United Church of Christ's webpage stated, something like "in order to take the Bible seriously, sometimes we cannot take it literally."

[ciara-belle.livejournal.com]

I like what the United Church of Christ's webpage stated, something like "in order to take the Bible seriously, sometimes we cannot take it literally."

That is quite possibly one of the smartest things I have ever heard. Yay them. :)