It's that time of season again!

[conuly]

Yes, when I ask, once more, if anybody has some Dudley fic for me. I know some of youse guys write. Don't you care about me? WHINE! WHINE! Seriously, I'm begging you here. Break free from the mold. Experiment. Write Dudley fic. Please?

This is leading me into two very different thoughts, which, for fun, I'll stick in the same post:

1. I know I do this, but how many others? I often use the phrase "would you?" instead of "please" when speaking, as in "Pass me the potatoes, would you?" Am I alone in this? I can't recall if I've heard other people doing that... (This is prompted by my final please in the first part of this entry)

2. It's very weird how many second-person fics I've seen. You don't ever see this in published works, as far as I know, and I certainly remember being taught that there's only three Points of View in fiction (first person, third person limited, third person omniscient), so why are certain fan fic writers (many of whom are really quite good) being so... experimental? innovative? different? in their writing? It's odd, is all.

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[appadil.livejournal.com]

2. Apart from the Choose Your Own Adventure genre of stories, I take it? I've seen people do second person fics, but I have yet to see it actually done WELL in any context that doesn't involve interactivity. I assume from your wording that you've had better experiences?

[conuly]

Yes, apart from the CYAs.

And yeah, I've seen some stunning second person, non-interactive fic. I wish I had some bookmarked, come to think of it.

[msilverstar]

Go talk to lobelia321, she's doing Dudley and has some fascinating ideas.

(just randomly wandering here, not stalking you really!)

[conuly]

No worries! Go down a bit, post on the introduction... post... thingy.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

Blah! Sorry I didn't answer last night, I was sleeping! Call me at like... 8 my time, if you can. If I don't hear from ya, I will call you. ;)

Would you prefer home or cell? (Paper, plastic?)


You know what is weird? While I was sleeping, you, Lizziey AND Angel called. Ha.

[conuly]

Cell. The other isn't even plugged in at the moment.

[innerbrat]

I've been taught that while 'would you' is acceptable grammatically, it's impolite. It's not used instead of 'please', 'please' is merely omitted.

"pass the potatoes, would you please?" is acceptable, although I don't use it. I'm more likely to the full: "Would you pass the potatoes, please?", or more likely (although incorrect in written): "Can you pass the potatoes, please?"

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Personally, I use could you instead of would you, but yes, I do that. "Could you pass the map? Cheers" would be perfectly normal for me. But people sometimes take it as rude.

[mhari.livejournal.com]

I think "would you?" can be interpreted as impatient/pushy, especially depending on the tone, but it's not uncommon. I do it occasionally.

[conuly]

But so could please, if it's said in an irritating enough fashion, and would you tacked onto the end of a sentence just sounds... like the end of the sentence.

[rachelkachel]

Not to me. I use it, but "please" feels more polite, wherever it is in the sentence. ("Would you" at the beginning is fine, though as EofS said, I'm more likely to substitute "could".)

[pne.livejournal.com]

1. I think I'd use ", would you?" occasionally, but it's not my most common.

[appadil.livejournal.com]

2. Apart from the Choose Your Own Adventure genre of stories, I take it? I've seen people do second person fics, but I have yet to see it actually done WELL in any context that doesn't involve interactivity. I assume from your wording that you've had better experiences?

[conuly]

Yes, apart from the CYAs.

And yeah, I've seen some stunning second person, non-interactive fic. I wish I had some bookmarked, come to think of it.

[msilverstar]

Go talk to lobelia321, she's doing Dudley and has some fascinating ideas.

(just randomly wandering here, not stalking you really!)

[conuly]

No worries! Go down a bit, post on the introduction... post... thingy.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

Blah! Sorry I didn't answer last night, I was sleeping! Call me at like... 8 my time, if you can. If I don't hear from ya, I will call you. ;)

Would you prefer home or cell? (Paper, plastic?)


You know what is weird? While I was sleeping, you, Lizziey AND Angel called. Ha.

[conuly]

Cell. The other isn't even plugged in at the moment.

[innerbrat]

I've been taught that while 'would you' is acceptable grammatically, it's impolite. It's not used instead of 'please', 'please' is merely omitted.

"pass the potatoes, would you please?" is acceptable, although I don't use it. I'm more likely to the full: "Would you pass the potatoes, please?", or more likely (although incorrect in written): "Can you pass the potatoes, please?"

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Personally, I use could you instead of would you, but yes, I do that. "Could you pass the map? Cheers" would be perfectly normal for me. But people sometimes take it as rude.

[mhari.livejournal.com]

I think "would you?" can be interpreted as impatient/pushy, especially depending on the tone, but it's not uncommon. I do it occasionally.

[conuly]

But so could please, if it's said in an irritating enough fashion, and would you tacked onto the end of a sentence just sounds... like the end of the sentence.

[rachelkachel]

Not to me. I use it, but "please" feels more polite, wherever it is in the sentence. ("Would you" at the beginning is fine, though as EofS said, I'm more likely to substitute "could".)

[pne.livejournal.com]

1. I think I'd use ", would you?" occasionally, but it's not my most common.