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Many of you, I'm sure, know about my experience with early puberty. To recap: I look now very much like I did at 10. I had breasts before my father died, in the 4th grade. The next year I got my period. I had pubic hair when we were still on 18th avenue, so either in the 4th or 3rd grade. (The average observer is not to know this, of course, but I'm putting it in for the sake of completeness.)

It's bad enough to remember my Last Trick-or-Treating Experience Ever (honestly, I'm far less upset in the present about this than my mom is. She's *still* angry enough to spit when she thinks about that!) until I remember that I'm not the only person who went through early puberty. The kid I talk about in the link? Facial hair in the first grade? That's not an exaggeration. That's not a lie, or some friendly hyperbole to make a point. That's two kids, in the same school (but from different parts of the country, originally, and living in different parts of the city, which helps rule out environmental factors) going through life consistently looking older than they were. Much older, really - I *knew* this kid was two years younger than I was, and he looked older. I've seen pictures of myself at four or five, and I don't believe I'm that age - I look more like nine or ten.

It's one thing for me to talk about this and say "but I was a bit weird", except... I couldn't've been *that* weird, because I can remember at least one other kid like that! And I see it when I go out with Ana - somebody will complain that this kid is "very rough" with the other kids, that she "doesn't act right" - well, the kid doesn't act right because she's a year younger than she looks. You can't expect an 18 month old child to act like a 2.5 year old child, even if that's the age of her same-heighted friends. And it's clear to me, from watching this kid, that she's only 18 months old, but apparently many people who 1. have children that age and 2. hang around other children for several hours a week don't see it - they see the kid's size and assume she's a certain age. Or, on the other hand, there's people who think Ana is up to a year younger than she is. Even though she's clearly *not* from her behaviour, they see her height and assume she's not as old as she is.

You can't tell how old a given child is by looking at them. You *should* be able to guess, with some degree of accuracy, by how they act... but from my limited experience, that gets harder as they get older.

So, my halloween motto? Costumes. It's all about the costumes. I don't bother trying to figure out ages, because, dude, I've been there, and it is Not Pleasant.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxrosencrantzxx.livejournal.com
I can't believe someone would refuse candy to a trick or treater because of age. Seriously, why would someone care so much? I've had college age trick or treaters and I was happy to unload candy on them. I do prefer them to be in costume though.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I don't care about the ages. It's totally about the costumes. Last year, we got a spade of parents in costume with their kids, and the parents got candy from us, too.

...I just like sharing the candy!Love, really.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortaine.livejournal.com
I wish a thug-like teenager had come to my house for Halloween. If they'd bothered to hike up my driveway, they deserve a treat. Heck, if they manage to drive up it and then get themselves back down again without going off the side of the hill, they deserve a treat. :D

Date: 2005-11-02 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carlanime.livejournal.com
We had one adult woman at our door on Halloween night, with her teenage daughter--the mother was, she explained, trick-or-treating on behalf of her little boy. But still, I thought it was cute that she dressed up, and we joked about how she ought to be able to trick-or-treat for herself.

We had several teenagers; I neither know, not care, exactly how old they are. They were dressed up and having fun, I'm not the age police, and it's only candy: I'm hardly going bankrupt over it, you know?

Date: 2005-11-02 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccak1961.livejournal.com
I was an early developer too. One of the first in my class, guys acting creepy (especially older ones)

Date: 2005-11-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] l33tminion
Thumbs up. I think no one's too old for Haloween, but those who don't dress up should just buy themselves some candy.

Date: 2005-11-02 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledchen.livejournal.com
I also got yelled at for being "too old" for trick or treating when I was eight. I was crushed.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxrosencrantzxx.livejournal.com
I can't believe someone would refuse candy to a trick or treater because of age. Seriously, why would someone care so much? I've had college age trick or treaters and I was happy to unload candy on them. I do prefer them to be in costume though.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wodhaund.livejournal.com
I don't care about the ages. It's totally about the costumes. Last year, we got a spade of parents in costume with their kids, and the parents got candy from us, too.

...I just like sharing the candy!Love, really.

Date: 2005-11-02 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortaine.livejournal.com
I wish a thug-like teenager had come to my house for Halloween. If they'd bothered to hike up my driveway, they deserve a treat. Heck, if they manage to drive up it and then get themselves back down again without going off the side of the hill, they deserve a treat. :D

Date: 2005-11-02 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carlanime.livejournal.com
We had one adult woman at our door on Halloween night, with her teenage daughter--the mother was, she explained, trick-or-treating on behalf of her little boy. But still, I thought it was cute that she dressed up, and we joked about how she ought to be able to trick-or-treat for herself.

We had several teenagers; I neither know, not care, exactly how old they are. They were dressed up and having fun, I'm not the age police, and it's only candy: I'm hardly going bankrupt over it, you know?

Date: 2005-11-02 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccak1961.livejournal.com
I was an early developer too. One of the first in my class, guys acting creepy (especially older ones)

Date: 2005-11-02 09:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] l33tminion
Thumbs up. I think no one's too old for Haloween, but those who don't dress up should just buy themselves some candy.

Date: 2005-11-02 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledchen.livejournal.com
I also got yelled at for being "too old" for trick or treating when I was eight. I was crushed.

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