Especially when it comes to their religious texts. Now this one was swearing that the Bible said that "Jesus would come back in 2,000 years. Not exactly 2,000, of course...." It says that in the Bible? I thought all it said that Jesus would return "within this generation". I understand that if you want to take the Bible anywhere near literally you have to make "this generation" mean some other generation than the one he was speaking to, which is possible - but I don't see how you can get 2,000 years from that.
And that raises a question - is that 2,000 years from the time of his birth, or his death? Because if it's his death, and we're using the conventional reckoning, then I figure I've got another 25 years or so before I need to worry about this sort of thing. Plenty of time.
Of course, I'm not a Biblical scholar. I almost certainly am missing something - but it's a smaller something than this guy (and no, I don't want answers - I just want the words that will SHUT THESE PEOPLE UP on the train so I can read my damn book for a change).
I think he may've been running a more sophisticated scam, though - he had a woman sitting, nodding, amening, calling him a "man of god" while professing not to know him. When's the last time you saw somebody converted by a street preacher? And he did attempt to collect money several times....
And that raises a question - is that 2,000 years from the time of his birth, or his death? Because if it's his death, and we're using the conventional reckoning, then I figure I've got another 25 years or so before I need to worry about this sort of thing. Plenty of time.
Of course, I'm not a Biblical scholar. I almost certainly am missing something - but it's a smaller something than this guy (and no, I don't want answers - I just want the words that will SHUT THESE PEOPLE UP on the train so I can read my damn book for a change).
I think he may've been running a more sophisticated scam, though - he had a woman sitting, nodding, amening, calling him a "man of god" while professing not to know him. When's the last time you saw somebody converted by a street preacher? And he did attempt to collect money several times....
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Date: 2005-10-09 12:42 am (UTC)And about "this generation" - there may be other places it's mentioned, but a few verses earlier it say "this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened" and a footnote says "or race". So maybe it's more metaphorical than a literal generation.
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Date: 2005-10-09 12:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-09 12:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-09 12:48 am (UTC)All I have is what Religious Tolerance tells me. Hm. I wonder where I can find out more information....
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Date: 2005-10-09 12:54 am (UTC)I like KJV for some things because it's so poetic, though :) I'm more familiar with the Christmas story with its wording, and of course the Lord's Prayer.
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Date: 2005-10-09 12:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-09 01:02 am (UTC)I don't know about many of the others, though I think we have at least one NRSV at home. NIV is pretty much standard at my church. Occasionally someone will decide to spice things up with The Message, and it kind of creeps me out to hear things like "the disciples promised to stick with Jesus through thick and thin."
Ha, sorry for spamming your journal :P You just got onto a subject I know something about and don't mind discussing.
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Date: 2005-10-09 01:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-09 01:25 am (UTC)Though it doesn't really surprise me, a lot of it's bleedin' confusing.
I just had fun telling the guys in my RE class to read page 21, which has the story of the two girls who got pregnant by their father. That put Miss Young on a hot plate, teehee!
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Date: 2005-10-09 01:38 am (UTC)Let's see, page 21 - Genesis, obviously... ah, of course. That Lot...
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Date: 2005-10-09 01:58 am (UTC)