So, Xiggy left....

[conuly]

And this post made my day. There's hope for the future.

It also started me thinking. I'm going to scrap nearly all my memories and start from scratch, doing *mostly* entries that other people have made. Can anybody link me to entries like the my uncle's boyfriend brings me cookies post or the fundies and showtunes post? Stuff that's interesting, funny, whatever. Double kudos if you also link to stuff I've written, because I'm egocentric and love to see how I've been memorable. I'd be much obliged for the help, and amabo te.

Comments

[kibbles.livejournal.com]

Despite being in agreement with much of what was said to those kids (except I believe more than one person attacked us on 9/11), I would be very pissed off at someone trying to teach that to my children, especially in a camp situation.

It is simply not the place of a camp counsellor or other stranger to push their values on my children without my knowledge or permission. Sunday school is one thing, camp is another, unless I sent them to a religious camp or other sort of situation where I knew that a certain political/religious agenda was going to be in place. (And this could very well be such a camp.)

You know people would be all over this if it went the other way, if the camp was pushing a right wing agenda, and encouraging the kids to be pro-Bush, pro-war.

[conuly]

Well, it depends on the age. They *sound* young, but they could be older than I'm giving them credit for - in which case, I don't think it's the parent's job to stop them from having conversations, which is what this sounds like. A guided conversation, but not that guided. All the condemnations, just about, are coming from the kids themselves, not roz. The only statement I see from her directly is that one kid can't hit another if that kid hit him first, and I assume most parents will agree with that.

[kibbles.livejournal.com]

Yeah it's just a bit iffy -- mind you, if there was a camp like that round here I wouldn't mind if I knew ahead of the game. Just like I know if I ever get my kids in Brooklyn Friends it WOULD be like that camp, and just like I know their First Day School is like that (my GOD you had to see some of the anti Bush stuff the little kids came out with there). Just all a matter of knowing.

And yeah they could be kind of old because of the Harry Potter being read to them, I wouldn't think they were five.

[kibbles.livejournal.com]

Despite being in agreement with much of what was said to those kids (except I believe more than one person attacked us on 9/11), I would be very pissed off at someone trying to teach that to my children, especially in a camp situation.

It is simply not the place of a camp counsellor or other stranger to push their values on my children without my knowledge or permission. Sunday school is one thing, camp is another, unless I sent them to a religious camp or other sort of situation where I knew that a certain political/religious agenda was going to be in place. (And this could very well be such a camp.)

You know people would be all over this if it went the other way, if the camp was pushing a right wing agenda, and encouraging the kids to be pro-Bush, pro-war.

[conuly]

Well, it depends on the age. They *sound* young, but they could be older than I'm giving them credit for - in which case, I don't think it's the parent's job to stop them from having conversations, which is what this sounds like. A guided conversation, but not that guided. All the condemnations, just about, are coming from the kids themselves, not roz. The only statement I see from her directly is that one kid can't hit another if that kid hit him first, and I assume most parents will agree with that.

[kibbles.livejournal.com]

Yeah it's just a bit iffy -- mind you, if there was a camp like that round here I wouldn't mind if I knew ahead of the game. Just like I know if I ever get my kids in Brooklyn Friends it WOULD be like that camp, and just like I know their First Day School is like that (my GOD you had to see some of the anti Bush stuff the little kids came out with there). Just all a matter of knowing.

And yeah they could be kind of old because of the Harry Potter being read to them, I wouldn't think they were five.