Okay...

Jun. 20th, 2005 02:53 pm
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... If anybody has actually been harmed by vaccinations, then that's a bad thing. But I see about as much evidence for vaccinations causing autism as I see for... well, for creationism. Could be wrong, have hardly done any in-depth research on the subject.

Now I want to find that Rolling Stone article. Any links?

Date: 2005-06-20 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com
Apparently in Britain, studies are starting to show consistently that (1) autism can be caused by overexposure to mercury but (2) the amount of mercury in vaccinations is so small that it's thought that environmental mercury is the source. Fish, for one. There's as much mercury in a helping of fish as in a vaccine. (Okay, I don't actually know the amounts. But in any case, people get a lot more mercury exposure from fish than vaccines.)

Britain is having outbreaks of various things that used to be vaccinated against, so this is big news over there. So sayeth the British husband. Can't vouch for the truth of any of this, myself.

Date: 2005-06-20 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
We're in the grip of a mumps epidemic, yes. When it started last Easter everyone said "aaah yes, that's because all the university students are too young to have had mumps as children and too old to have had the MMR jab, tchtchtch let's stick as many needles in our children as we can" and looked very smug and self-satisfied. Despite it being bollocks (I'm slap-bang in the group at risk and had mumps as a baby and every child in my school was given MMR when I was 9, except the small number of us who opted out.)

Then 10 months on it finally escaped the universities it had been confined to and started hitting the general populace. Including a lot of people who had been fully MMRed (my cousin amongst them.)

And now people are beginning to wonder how effective the MMR is.

Date: 2005-06-20 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkofcreation.livejournal.com
I know my husband never had the MMR—just the measles and rubella vaccines, separately. When he was applying for residency here, he had to have a blood titer done to prove he had the antibodies to mumps (from having them as a child), since the MMR is one of the US's required vaccines for immigrants (unless they already have the antibodies, obviously).

I had the MMR series, but when I worked in a public health clinic they did a similar titer (just for measles and rubella) and I was negative for measles antibodies so I had to be re-vaccinated. Which they insisted on doing right then. I worked eight hours with a 104° fever that day. :-/

OTOH, obviously I wouldn't vouch for the MMR's effectiveness 15 years after my last booster, but certainly the measles portion is effective in young kids—there've been a few isolated measles outbreaks among kids who weren't vaccinated.

Date: 2005-06-20 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
Thats my big problem with the chicken pox jab. I would rather my children got it in the wild, and have a lifelong immunity, than lose their immunity down the road, when it is dangerous to get it.

However since my daughter has not been exposed to it yet, and she's starting to get older, we're probably going to do it now. Just want to make sure she gets boosters.

No one even gets tetanus boosters anymore, really, and they should. (I should talk I'm late for mine. Last one was about 12 years ago.)

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