Taken from xmorningxrosex

[conuly]

Personally, I think it's a reasonable law.

But that doesn't mean the world agrees:

"This is an insult to people of color and other racial minorities who have fought for equal opportunity through civil rights based on unchangeable characteristics."

Maybe I'm missing something. How is saying "Don't discriminate against transgendered people" somehow insulting to everyone else who has wrongfully had civil rights denied to them?

Comments

[fjorab-teke.livejournal.com]

Really weird...I don't get it either. :-/

Of course, I don't get what the whole uproar against homosexuality is, either.

I've been called "sir" by mistake several times (once by a campus security officer) and taken it as a mistaken compliment. I like what I like, feminine or not, and I'm not ashamed of it, nor should anyone harrass me for who I am as long as I'm not hurting them. That same right should go for everyone else too.

[xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com]

well you know, we should make sure everyone with unchangeable characteristics isn't discriminated against in any way possible before moving on to making anything even somewhat improved for all those people that are just choosing to play with their gender and orientation and clothing choices and whatnot for the fun of it. *eyeroll*

[leora.livejournal.com]

I find tolerating discrimination and bigotry to be far more of an insult to those who fought for any form of equality. But I'm weird.

[rho]

I'll believe that it's insuting to campaigner for equal rights based upon race and colour when I hear one of them saying as much. Or, actually, no I won't, but I'd actually at least think about considering it as anything other than a bunch of bigoted morons getting hot under the colour then.

[wakasplat.livejournal.com]

It reminds me of... a lot of things.

Like the sort of full-time wheelchair user who will say to a part-time wheelchair user, "If I could walk at all, I wouldn't be in this chair, so how dare you choose to use a wheelchair and demand equal rights on the basis of your choice?"

[lakidaa.livejournal.com]

what?

That..doesn't even make..sense! ARGH *brain fizzlpop, shutdown*

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

Pitting minority groups against each other is a classic strategy for maintaining the status quo. History provides countless examples. Part of the cause of this is because it's so easy - no minority group is, as a whole, immune to believing in stereotypes about other groups. Thus almost any group, believing in the "inferiority" of another group, can be easily baited into feeling a need to declare, in effect, "We're not like those people."

I ran into an example of this when I tried to explain the parallels between GLBTI rights and autistic rights movements to a PFLAG representative. The tediously predictable response came almost at once: "Yes, but autism is a disorder." The person in question apparently saw no relevance in the fact that it's only been a few decades since homosexuality was declassified as a "mental illness." "Of course" is is intolerable that homosexuals should be marginalized and oppressed by DSM standards - but for all "those other people," it's just fine and even quite "necessary."

People's own double-standards, and their unwillingness to question them, are the single most effective weapon for keeping all minority groups "in their place." But so long as any minority is marginalized - even a minority of one - then equality is meaningless and all civil rights remain endangered.

[aberrantangels]

But so long as any minority is marginalized - even a minority of one - then equality is meaningless and all civil rights remain endangered.

"While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free." — Eugene V. Debs

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

I've heard it a lot-- that minority groups (I hear this from Ethan, who gets sucked into black rights, gets pissed off, and leaves again) get angry that other groups are piggybacking off their civil rights movement. Supposedly it's a pretty common sentiment.

And to bring up an anthropological example from World of Warcraft: if someone is saying that a quest or a boss battle is too easy, it'll be the high levels that have already done it. They'll be crying to make it more difficult. What do they care? They've already done it, and who gives a fuck about the people that haven't yet.

[sporks5000.livejournal.com]

let me finish reading Luna (Julie Anne Peters) before making a decision on this.

[fjorab-teke.livejournal.com]

Really weird...I don't get it either. :-/

Of course, I don't get what the whole uproar against homosexuality is, either.

I've been called "sir" by mistake several times (once by a campus security officer) and taken it as a mistaken compliment. I like what I like, feminine or not, and I'm not ashamed of it, nor should anyone harrass me for who I am as long as I'm not hurting them. That same right should go for everyone else too.

[xmorningxrosex.livejournal.com]

well you know, we should make sure everyone with unchangeable characteristics isn't discriminated against in any way possible before moving on to making anything even somewhat improved for all those people that are just choosing to play with their gender and orientation and clothing choices and whatnot for the fun of it. *eyeroll*

[leora.livejournal.com]

I find tolerating discrimination and bigotry to be far more of an insult to those who fought for any form of equality. But I'm weird.

[rho]

I'll believe that it's insuting to campaigner for equal rights based upon race and colour when I hear one of them saying as much. Or, actually, no I won't, but I'd actually at least think about considering it as anything other than a bunch of bigoted morons getting hot under the colour then.

[wakasplat.livejournal.com]

It reminds me of... a lot of things.

Like the sort of full-time wheelchair user who will say to a part-time wheelchair user, "If I could walk at all, I wouldn't be in this chair, so how dare you choose to use a wheelchair and demand equal rights on the basis of your choice?"

[lakidaa.livejournal.com]

what?

That..doesn't even make..sense! ARGH *brain fizzlpop, shutdown*

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

Pitting minority groups against each other is a classic strategy for maintaining the status quo. History provides countless examples. Part of the cause of this is because it's so easy - no minority group is, as a whole, immune to believing in stereotypes about other groups. Thus almost any group, believing in the "inferiority" of another group, can be easily baited into feeling a need to declare, in effect, "We're not like those people."

I ran into an example of this when I tried to explain the parallels between GLBTI rights and autistic rights movements to a PFLAG representative. The tediously predictable response came almost at once: "Yes, but autism is a disorder." The person in question apparently saw no relevance in the fact that it's only been a few decades since homosexuality was declassified as a "mental illness." "Of course" is is intolerable that homosexuals should be marginalized and oppressed by DSM standards - but for all "those other people," it's just fine and even quite "necessary."

People's own double-standards, and their unwillingness to question them, are the single most effective weapon for keeping all minority groups "in their place." But so long as any minority is marginalized - even a minority of one - then equality is meaningless and all civil rights remain endangered.

[aberrantangels]

But so long as any minority is marginalized - even a minority of one - then equality is meaningless and all civil rights remain endangered.

"While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free." — Eugene V. Debs

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

I've heard it a lot-- that minority groups (I hear this from Ethan, who gets sucked into black rights, gets pissed off, and leaves again) get angry that other groups are piggybacking off their civil rights movement. Supposedly it's a pretty common sentiment.

And to bring up an anthropological example from World of Warcraft: if someone is saying that a quest or a boss battle is too easy, it'll be the high levels that have already done it. They'll be crying to make it more difficult. What do they care? They've already done it, and who gives a fuck about the people that haven't yet.

[sporks5000.livejournal.com]

let me finish reading Luna (Julie Anne Peters) before making a decision on this.