Oh boy...

[conuly]

I can't even comment on this one. People actually *believe* this?

And then, they wonder why kids leave the faith when they grow up. I don't think it's because of a lack of guilt and fear....

Comments

[leora.livejournal.com]

Gah, I hate my brain. Sorry, I always think of that one more thought just as I click to submit...

I think a key difference is that shame is generally what makes a person feel like they are bad. This only leads to weakness. And it takes strength to act ethically.

Guilt makes a person feel like they did a bad thing, acted badly. And that you can recover from and fix.

If you're bad and dirty, it's hopless. How can a bad, dirty person like you ever make things good. If you acted poorly, you can be a good person who can fix things, learn to be better, apologize, try to make it up, and be good.

[rantinan.livejournal.com]

"If you're bad and dirty, it's hopless."


You do NOT want to know what thaughts that inspired.


I'll just say, a good dominant sees that as good starting point for rebuilding.

[leora.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, okay, possible. But I'd say that's playing in dangerous territory and shouldn't be done carelessly. And is probably a really bad idea to venture into solo with no one clueful and loving around to help you through it.

[rantinan.livejournal.com]

Well yes to all of your points. I usualy dont et em untill they are broken tho. I know about the after, not the before.