Oh, fun! Another anti-abortion article

[conuly]

Here.

How did you spend the anniversary of Roe v. Wade?

Sleeping? Why?

Militant feminist members of the Feminist League of Organized Resistance partied the night away in morbid celebration of their right to kill babies. One can imagine many past and present world dictators - proponents of genocide all - such as Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Joseph Stalin, and Adolph Hitler all smiling at the notion.

We have a Feminist League of Organized Resistance? Really? I have to check this out later - after I do that project.

Isn't it funny how all supporters of abortion happen to be alive?

Except they don't. Quite a few supporters of abortion have died since they started supporting abortion.

Nancy Theriot, professor of Women's Studies at U of L, complains that the media unfairly portrays feminists as "crazy, shrill, unreasonably angry, ugly and man-hating." Meanwhile, the lovely ladies of FLOR are holding death to baby parties. Way to fight the perception, girls.

Except we're not...? And anyway, even if we were, that's got nothing to do with being shrill, unreasonably angry, ugly, or manhating. I'll give you "crazy", since if you believe abortion is infanticide, and you believe infanticide is wrong, it is logical that you'd believe that people who are pro-choice are crazy.

Very quickly here, allow me to expand on the true definition of a feminist. If you believe that men and women should have equal rights, then you are not a feminist. You're normal.

Aw, I'm so glad that he can define words! Wrongly! And you're not normal if you believe that, alas and alack.

The feminists of today are not Susan B. Anthony reincarnated. They're nothing more than ugly women screaming for attention. They were born with less testosterone, and for that, society must pay.

Um, riiiiight. *looks down* I don't think I'm ugly... and I don't usually scream for attention. And I don't care if I have less testosterone than somebody else. Nor do I think society should pay. Equality is nice, though. You know, that thing? Where people make the same wage for the same job, and have access to those jobs, that sort of thing.

Actually, one shouldn't refer to a feminist as "ugly." According to FLOR member Jessica Farquhar, feminists simply resist "patriarchal standards of beauty." This is akin to the idiot who, upon flunking out of school, blames society's discriminatory "standards of academics."

I'm really not sure if I'm more disturbed at his idea that feminists are ugly, or the idea that beauty matters, for anything.

Today's feminist movement seems to be rooted in jealousy masquerading as a fight for suffrage.

We have suffrage, sweetie. As for jealousy... well, I suppose you could call it that. Maybe. If you have an unreasonable view of what people are entitled to.

Louisville itself has huge problems...museums. We have "huge, phallic, male things" such as the Louisville Slugger Museum, but no comparable monument to women. So instead of working to create a dominatrix memorial...they just complain. (And Theriot has to wonder why feminists are called man-hating?)

Man, he's just determined to revel in his ignorance, isn't he? Though he's right, to an extent - if you want a monument for something yonic (yay for cool words!) you need to design one. Oh, and get funding. Oh, and get permission from somebody to build it.

The lovely ladies whine that there has never been a female president and about the lack of female policymakers. "That's surely not a democracy," Farquhar said, "The majority of us (women are 51% of the population) are not represented."

I'm not sure that's whining, honey.

Wait a minute. Women do have the right to vote (and have since 1920.) If they hold the majority then whose fault is it that there has been no female president? Not the minority of men. I have no idea what they're teaching in the Women's Studies program, but clearly they don't waste any time on statistics.

Except that maybe women also have a habit of buying into sexist ideas like "a woman could never be president"? Except that maybe, in order to run for president, you need more than potential voters, you need money and powerful supporters - who, really, tend to be male? And you need people who think you can win, which is unlikely to happen as everybody assumes that you can't?

Hm.

Not even the University of Louisville administration can dodge the venom. "Eighty-one percent of tenure-track positions are held by men," bemoaned Farquhar. But in fact, over one-third of faculty positions belong to women, the second-most powerful position (provost) at U of L is held by a woman, and deans of the colleges of law, medicine, nursing and libraries system are all women. Women comprise over 53% of the student body. And the university has just created a $2 million endowed chair in Pan-African, women's and gender studies.

So, most of the school is female, but most of the faculty is male? And this is equality?

Listening to our friends at the Women's Center might lead one to believe that women were still prevented from working outside the home. But in fact, it would appear that equality of the sexes at U of L would not appear to be a colossal problem.

Maybe not to you, but to me... it's not as rosy as you think. And women still make less than men do, and women still have the double standard of "if you work outside the home, you're a bad mom, if you stay home, you're a bad mom (and often poor)". Men don't have this problem (their problem is "if you stay home, you're effeminate").

Apparently FLOR hasn't noticed they're 85 years too late for America's suffrage movement. Susan B. Anthony fought for the right to vote; today's feminist fights for the right to abort the baby that she will likely never have.

Well, not if it's aborted!

But then there's the working rights I listed, the rights of people outside the US, fights against FGM, rights of women to breastfeed, yea, even in public....

But with the rights of women not under assault from chauvinist men (to a feminist, this means all straight men), what - other than introducing babies to the Planned Parenthood equivalent of the Orkin Man - is today's feminist supposed to fight for?

Sorry, guys of my friends list, apparently I was wrong, and you're all chauvinists. I never knew what my feelings were on men until this man bothered to tell me!

If FLOR wants a fight, they should head to Saudi Arabia or Iran. Or they could volunteer to help in Afghanistan, where women have only recently been granted the right to vote, go to school, and wear normal clothing. Or they could help the women of Iraq, who are only now free of the threat from Saddam Hussein's rape rooms.

Oh, Iraq is great. So, they went from being a largely secular society to being one with women virtually confined to their homes!

Sweetie, let's fight our battles at home first. When we solve our own problems, then we can feel qualified to tell other people how to solve their problems.

There is plenty for someone interested in equality for all to be thankful for and more than enough work to be done in savage backwards countries around the globe. But I suppose it's much easier to just play the part of victim yourself.

Savage backwards countries? Why don't you go there, and tell them what you think. I'll be interested in their replies!

And thankful. Pshaw. Just because things are worse elsewhere doesn't mean that we should be happy for what we have here. That's like telling somebody "you only were beaten up as a kid, you should be thankful you didn't die".

Comments

[gypsyjr.livejournal.com]

I love your commentaries.

[conuly]

Aw.

[hopefulnebula]

Normal clothing? What the hell?

Normal: My N-word.

[conuly]

If everyone is wearing it, it's normal. So if everyone wears burqas, guess what?

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

What the hell is that? Is the Louisville Patriot a respected newspaper? Why did they print that drivel? Having an anti-abortion opinion and writing about it is one thing--resorting to petty tactics like "all feminists are ugly" is another thing entirely. I don't know the publication at all, but I would suspect from that alone that it's not very reputable.

The author is apparently the owner of the Patriot, too. What a guy to work for. I wonder how many women he employs?

[conuly]

I think it may be a college newspaper...

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think so too. After commenting, I realized I could probably look it up myself, and came to that conclusion. The guy still owns it, and/or is the CEO of the company that publishes it, so that point still stands.

Really sad excuse for an article, though.

[aberrantangels]

chauvinist men (to a feminist, this means all straight men)

I hate to say it, but Robert Anton Wilson (of all people) seems to take the same view of "feminists" as this yipyop. (I put "feminists" in quotes because, as far as I can tell, he uses Andrea Dworkin as a synecdoche for all feminists everywhere.) I only wish that constituted an exaggeration:

This rebellion against rationality originally intended to make Radical Feminism and its doctrine of male fungibility respectable, and it succeeded, at least in the major media, but it also made fungible group hatred respectable in general. Now the anti-Semites and all the other hate mongers are crawling out from under their rocks, and Academia does not have the ammunition to argue against them. Academia cannot argue the rational principle that hatred of any group does not make sense; they dumped that when they dumped logic (as a "male" perversion.)

Racism designates the ignorant, bigoted, politically incorrect dogma that O.J. must be guilty because he is black. Feminism designates the enlightened, educated, politically correct dogma that O.J. must be guilty because he is male.

Thus, the Ku Klux Klan's dogma "All black men are potential rapists" is ignorant, awful and politically incorrect, because it targets a group now on the "unfashionable to hate" list. The feminist "all men are potential rapists" is enlightened, educated and politically correct because it targets a group now on the "fashionable to hate" list.

From a Darwinian perspective, Radical Feminism represents the withdrawal of certain females from the breeding population. This means that they will play no role in the future gene pool of humanity. Considering the types who have taken this path -- e.g. Steinem, Dworkin etc. -- this appears to be a quite desirable eugenic choice.

I don't know if anyone's pointed out that his objection to "the feminists" for their fungible "hatred of all men" itself constitutes a fungible hatred of a group for the sins of some-but-not-all of its individual members. I wonder what he'd say if anyone ever did. (I know pfarley serves as his webmaster; maybe I should ask him?)

[mhari.livejournal.com]

chauvinist men (to a feminist, this means all straight men)

No, just all straight men who think they're entitled to sex.

[/pissed off]

[wakasplat.livejournal.com]

I've met Wilson. His thinking, to put it mildly, didn't impress me. (And yeah, we had a pretty negative interaction.)

[teratologist.livejournal.com]

Robert Anton Wilson is a fine fellow to talk about anyone else 'dumping' logic.

[lakidaa.livejournal.com]

First: RAR CONULY CRUSH PUNY ARTICLE (WITH WIT)!

Second: ow. poor shorthand there. FLOR?

Third: I think that more SAHDs would be Teh Awesomea. I also think that some gay guys can be mean, and some straight guys are Awesomea.

Fourth: perhaps we need a 'women's election fund-thingie'. You know. a big fund that can be handed out to women running in major positions.

Also: Abortion Doctor :: Orkin Man? *giggle*

[marveen.livejournal.com]

Gotta love the whole "What are you whining about? We GAVE you ______!"

My father did that. The whole condescending, I'm-too-good-for-this, I'll-give-you-a-scrap-now-go-away crap that worked when I was six and stopped working by the time I was ten. Ask for a sandwich, he hands you three crackers and tells you to go away. When you come back, still hungry, he acts hurt and huffy and downright angry that you're still bothering him. (After all, he GAVE you three crackers!)

This dude is clearly writing from his own little universe--you know, the one where you can tell a feminist at ten yards because she's so strident and ugly. Obviously logic isn't taught there.

[leora.livejournal.com]

To the extent I consider myself a feminist (I generally prefer to think of myself more as a humanist, rather than having to mention all the unfair inequalities i oppose), I am equally against sexist women as sexist men. The worst sexist I have ever had to deal with was female. It was at work, and I was specifically told that while normally she would be my boss, they wouldn't have her do so because they knew it'd cause problems so I'd report to someone else instead.

I don't think the author is someone to take seriously though.

[silantro.livejournal.com]

Nice commentary. This was my favorite line from the article:

Isn't it funny how all supporters of abortion happen to be alive?

[naive-notstupid.livejournal.com]

"Sweetie, let's fight our battles at home first. When we solve our own problems, then we can feel qualified to tell other people how to solve their problems."

> exactly!

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

ooh, this should be fun, m'dear...

and I don't usually scream for attention. Um, connie, from someone who knows you, TELL THE TRUTH! bah! love ya...

"huge, phallic, male things" such as the Louisville Slugger Museum--Dear god, people. now we should hit baseballs with something more shaped like a catchers mitt? ITS A FRIGGIN BASEBALL MUSEUM! get over it! and lsat i checked womens league softball uses the same freaking apparatus!

If FLOR wants a fight, they should head to Saudi Arabia or Iran. Or they could volunteer to help in Afghanistan hey, i've used this argument...on people who dislike america....



Okay, knowing i could get yelled at for this. Most of the feminists i do know, happen to be lesbian. so why, may i ask do they get such rights over fighting over the right to abort?? i doubt, barring yucky circumstances, they will have an unplanned pregnancy. and yet they complain over the waiting lists for adoption. well, maybe if so many babies weren't aborted..okay, done. don't kill me.

[conuly]

Most of the feminists i do know, happen to be lesbian.

Most of the feminists I know don't happen to be lesbian. In fact, the vast majority of them are straight or bi.

Dear god, people. now we should hit baseballs with something more shaped like a catchers mitt? ITS A FRIGGIN BASEBALL MUSEUM! get over it! and lsat i checked womens league softball uses the same freaking apparatus!

Sweetie, re-read it. It's a museum for something that's generally a guy thing, with a phallic symbol involved. What they want is another museum for something that's not traditionally a guy thing.

Additionally, that's his mocking. There's no reason to believe that anybody actually cares.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

lol. i said that I personally know, so there! didn't say anything about anyone else. I am female. and i love baseball. would they complain about a female softball museum, and the symbol still being a bat?

[gypsyjr.livejournal.com]

I love your commentaries.

[conuly]

Aw.

[hopefulnebula]

Normal clothing? What the hell?

Normal: My N-word.

[conuly]

If everyone is wearing it, it's normal. So if everyone wears burqas, guess what?

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

What the hell is that? Is the Louisville Patriot a respected newspaper? Why did they print that drivel? Having an anti-abortion opinion and writing about it is one thing--resorting to petty tactics like "all feminists are ugly" is another thing entirely. I don't know the publication at all, but I would suspect from that alone that it's not very reputable.

The author is apparently the owner of the Patriot, too. What a guy to work for. I wonder how many women he employs?

[conuly]

I think it may be a college newspaper...

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think so too. After commenting, I realized I could probably look it up myself, and came to that conclusion. The guy still owns it, and/or is the CEO of the company that publishes it, so that point still stands.

Really sad excuse for an article, though.

[aberrantangels]

chauvinist men (to a feminist, this means all straight men)

I hate to say it, but Robert Anton Wilson (of all people) seems to take the same view of "feminists" as this yipyop. (I put "feminists" in quotes because, as far as I can tell, he uses Andrea Dworkin as a synecdoche for all feminists everywhere.) I only wish that constituted an exaggeration:

This rebellion against rationality originally intended to make Radical Feminism and its doctrine of male fungibility respectable, and it succeeded, at least in the major media, but it also made fungible group hatred respectable in general. Now the anti-Semites and all the other hate mongers are crawling out from under their rocks, and Academia does not have the ammunition to argue against them. Academia cannot argue the rational principle that hatred of any group does not make sense; they dumped that when they dumped logic (as a "male" perversion.)

Racism designates the ignorant, bigoted, politically incorrect dogma that O.J. must be guilty because he is black. Feminism designates the enlightened, educated, politically correct dogma that O.J. must be guilty because he is male.

Thus, the Ku Klux Klan's dogma "All black men are potential rapists" is ignorant, awful and politically incorrect, because it targets a group now on the "unfashionable to hate" list. The feminist "all men are potential rapists" is enlightened, educated and politically correct because it targets a group now on the "fashionable to hate" list.

From a Darwinian perspective, Radical Feminism represents the withdrawal of certain females from the breeding population. This means that they will play no role in the future gene pool of humanity. Considering the types who have taken this path -- e.g. Steinem, Dworkin etc. -- this appears to be a quite desirable eugenic choice.

I don't know if anyone's pointed out that his objection to "the feminists" for their fungible "hatred of all men" itself constitutes a fungible hatred of a group for the sins of some-but-not-all of its individual members. I wonder what he'd say if anyone ever did. (I know pfarley serves as his webmaster; maybe I should ask him?)

[mhari.livejournal.com]

chauvinist men (to a feminist, this means all straight men)

No, just all straight men who think they're entitled to sex.

[/pissed off]

[wakasplat.livejournal.com]

I've met Wilson. His thinking, to put it mildly, didn't impress me. (And yeah, we had a pretty negative interaction.)

[teratologist.livejournal.com]

Robert Anton Wilson is a fine fellow to talk about anyone else 'dumping' logic.

[lakidaa.livejournal.com]

First: RAR CONULY CRUSH PUNY ARTICLE (WITH WIT)!

Second: ow. poor shorthand there. FLOR?

Third: I think that more SAHDs would be Teh Awesomea. I also think that some gay guys can be mean, and some straight guys are Awesomea.

Fourth: perhaps we need a 'women's election fund-thingie'. You know. a big fund that can be handed out to women running in major positions.

Also: Abortion Doctor :: Orkin Man? *giggle*

[marveen.livejournal.com]

Gotta love the whole "What are you whining about? We GAVE you ______!"

My father did that. The whole condescending, I'm-too-good-for-this, I'll-give-you-a-scrap-now-go-away crap that worked when I was six and stopped working by the time I was ten. Ask for a sandwich, he hands you three crackers and tells you to go away. When you come back, still hungry, he acts hurt and huffy and downright angry that you're still bothering him. (After all, he GAVE you three crackers!)

This dude is clearly writing from his own little universe--you know, the one where you can tell a feminist at ten yards because she's so strident and ugly. Obviously logic isn't taught there.

[leora.livejournal.com]

To the extent I consider myself a feminist (I generally prefer to think of myself more as a humanist, rather than having to mention all the unfair inequalities i oppose), I am equally against sexist women as sexist men. The worst sexist I have ever had to deal with was female. It was at work, and I was specifically told that while normally she would be my boss, they wouldn't have her do so because they knew it'd cause problems so I'd report to someone else instead.

I don't think the author is someone to take seriously though.

[silantro.livejournal.com]

Nice commentary. This was my favorite line from the article:

Isn't it funny how all supporters of abortion happen to be alive?

[naive-notstupid.livejournal.com]

"Sweetie, let's fight our battles at home first. When we solve our own problems, then we can feel qualified to tell other people how to solve their problems."

> exactly!

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

ooh, this should be fun, m'dear...

and I don't usually scream for attention. Um, connie, from someone who knows you, TELL THE TRUTH! bah! love ya...

"huge, phallic, male things" such as the Louisville Slugger Museum--Dear god, people. now we should hit baseballs with something more shaped like a catchers mitt? ITS A FRIGGIN BASEBALL MUSEUM! get over it! and lsat i checked womens league softball uses the same freaking apparatus!

If FLOR wants a fight, they should head to Saudi Arabia or Iran. Or they could volunteer to help in Afghanistan hey, i've used this argument...on people who dislike america....



Okay, knowing i could get yelled at for this. Most of the feminists i do know, happen to be lesbian. so why, may i ask do they get such rights over fighting over the right to abort?? i doubt, barring yucky circumstances, they will have an unplanned pregnancy. and yet they complain over the waiting lists for adoption. well, maybe if so many babies weren't aborted..okay, done. don't kill me.

[conuly]

Most of the feminists i do know, happen to be lesbian.

Most of the feminists I know don't happen to be lesbian. In fact, the vast majority of them are straight or bi.

Dear god, people. now we should hit baseballs with something more shaped like a catchers mitt? ITS A FRIGGIN BASEBALL MUSEUM! get over it! and lsat i checked womens league softball uses the same freaking apparatus!

Sweetie, re-read it. It's a museum for something that's generally a guy thing, with a phallic symbol involved. What they want is another museum for something that's not traditionally a guy thing.

Additionally, that's his mocking. There's no reason to believe that anybody actually cares.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

lol. i said that I personally know, so there! didn't say anything about anyone else. I am female. and i love baseball. would they complain about a female softball museum, and the symbol still being a bat?