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Date: 2005-02-20 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthanolis.livejournal.com
Okay, call me stupid or whatever. But I don't see this as so odd, nor as exceptionally strange. The guy was raised with high standards - would you ask him to compromise those standards for just anyone? Hell, mine personal standards are about that level.
Though I doubt I'll ever advertise on eBay for a wife — his parents really must be bugging him to get married. ;)

Date: 2005-02-20 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cumaeansibyl.livejournal.com
"Other" being two things:

(6) High-metabolic rate (interesting way of saying "No fat chicks," hmm?)

and

A simple life filled with power you never seen. Over time, I will offer you treasures that no moth or rust can destroy! You will get to see a world you never thought existed on this earth. You will accomplish in 10 years what your peers take a lifetime to learn!

... I'm assuming this means he's a Dungeon Master, but you never know.

Date: 2005-02-20 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
Thing is, there is probably a woman who fits this just fine, looking for someone like him.

There's a lid to every pot, mom always said.

Better they find each other than they wind up with the wrong sort of person, making each other miserable.

There are people who would hate my life. It's a good thing they aren't living it, then.

Date: 2005-02-20 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pockingell.livejournal.com
Struggling to understand this. He's asking for you to not only find him the "perfect" (by his definition) girl, but to also pay him for the privilege of telling him about it? And you may get the money back, but only if he gets married to the girl you point out? o_O

Date: 2005-02-20 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pockingell.livejournal.com
Yes, kids, comments like this one really do happen when you don't think to refresh the page after going to get a drink. Here was me thinking I would be making a new point. u_u

Date: 2005-02-20 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthanolis.livejournal.com
Okay, he probably could have articulated his ideas a little better, but a lot of that – intelligence, knowledge, humour, politics, compassion, etc – is something you can't ask people to look for. In fact, when it comes down to it, they aren't super important, because that is all part of personality, the something that can't be defined in a list or a requirement.
Compatibility is usually due to personality also.

I admit the slim and pretty part is a little wrong, but at least the guy is honest in what he wants. Although I have found that prettiness/beauty is relative to personality.
And the housewife thing he doesn't specifically say is a must. Perhaps, somewhat like me, he is oldfashioned, and would prefer to have a wife who wants to take care of the kidlings. He maybe does put a bit much emphasis on it though for politeness' sake.

But I understand the whole thing about the requirement of a Virgin. Perhaps today's society has reached the level of sex isn't important, and possibly even just a toy, but a lot of people haven't. He perhaps hasn't worded it properly, but the point is valid. Why shouldn't he be able to ask such a thing?
I'd say something about society's lack of virginity and child prostitution here, but I can't word it without making it sound so wrong!

In the end, you may find those standard insulting, but that isn't something he can do anything about. They are his standards. If you find them insulting, if you find the things that he believes to be be insulting, then that is your decision. He hasn't asked for his standards to be ridiculed, he has just asked for them to be recognised.

Date: 2005-02-21 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthanolis.livejournal.com
The parent's thing does bug me, but it also says something about how he isn't just looking for a wife, but an extended family as well.

Being married for more than just "time", or "till death do you part", is a common Christian thing nowadays. And something I believe is possible also.

The fee part does bother me as well. Perhaps it is just a way to get rid of the jokers and the bastard's who'll poke fun of him in various ways.
I still don't see how it couldn't be true. If a little warped.

Date: 2005-02-21 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com
The most disturbing part is that he advertised on Ebay. Duh!

Date: 2005-02-21 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarletdemon.livejournal.com
It all screams "troll" to me. He's joking around.

Date: 2005-02-21 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
The most distrubing thin is that he's asking people to pay to do him a favour.
That's what screams 'troll' to me, really.

Date: 2005-02-21 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
The most disturbing part is the complete absence of a description of the desired personality. No mention of what sort of person he is (does he play an instrument? is he physically active? what sorts of things would they do together?) There is pretty much nothing here with which to match personality types. And he seems to think that the personality is irrelevant so long as she's a virgin Christian housewife, which suggests he expects her to be meek and pretty much irrelevant except for sex and boasting his ego and doing housework and cranking out bbabies.

He'd never do for me - I prefer a man who can offer my proper grammar.

Date: 2005-02-21 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I find specifying high metabolic rate very disturbing. I'm not entirely sure why. Maybe because it doesn't relate to physical appearance or anything you can control. But I think mainly because metabolic rate changes with age, so this basically specifies young and this is a trait that will be lost, and people who want the things that their partner is bound to lose bother me. It strikes me as a lack of acceptance of the person their partner is going to be. Also, metabolic rate is affected by health.

I understand the desire to start with a young, healthy, pretty person. But if you care about it so much, I just can't see your relationship lasting. These things are not central to what a person is, and they go. If he's willing to stick by someone in sickness and in health and til death do us part, he should be starting now to learn to accept the things that are not central to personality and are likely to happen.

I just don't get it. At a very fundamental way, I could never be with him even if I were a Christian virgin who wanted similar things, because he's already said he doesn't want the person I will someday be. And to me, that rejection matters. Whether he means it or not.

Date: 2005-02-21 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Except metabolic rate and weight are only correlated. Mine has done so many funky fun things because of illness, yet I've never been overweight. It's a way of saying no hypothyroidism even if you're beautiful, virteous, and in all other ways perfect.

You can have a lower metabolic rate and be the same weight if you eat less. I've usually had a high metabolic rate for most of my life, which simply meant I was perpetually hungry. So, he's mainly looking for women who need to eat constantly, whether he realizes it or not. This requirement is Just Plain Stupid.

Date: 2005-02-21 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pockingell.livejournal.com
Interesting. Also being sold (http://search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZrescueme911) by this guy are a music album produced by 'mentally ill patients' (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4700967025&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW), 'tested and proven' cosmetic packs (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67500&item=5558160999&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW), and membership on a 'magic advisory mailing list' (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557499010&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) which only lists 'real practitioners whose works are "proven by science"'.

Hmmm, somehow I don't think I'd buy from this guy.

Date: 2005-02-21 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoebonica.livejournal.com
I think everyone's already commented on the really disturbing parts of this, so I'll just say... what's this guy got against redheads? It says "Hair colour: brunette, blonde, brown, selected red" - what kind of red does he consider acceptable? (Although speaking as a red-haired Christian virgin, I'm kind of relieved. Saves me having to get a tattoo.)

(And yes, I know my hair is brown in my icon. It's redder than that in real life.)

Date: 2005-02-21 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoebonica.livejournal.com
(Ok, I meant to put "brunette, blonde, black." You knew that, right?)

Date: 2005-02-21 04:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deceptica
There's a lid to every pot, mom always said.

Yes! My mother told me that too when I was having my "nobody loves me" phase. And she was right. *nods* I don't know why, but it just makes me happy that other mothers say this too.

As for the original post... I can't agree with this guy's standards at all, but I do agree that he has a right to hold them. What I find bothersome is how he objectifies the woman by a) using ebay instead of a dating site or whatever, and b) addressing her parents as if she was just an inanimate thing owned by them.

Date: 2005-02-21 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
'tis a joke, and what disturbs me most is that people are getting offended because they think he's for real. I thought it was pretty funny, myself.

Date: 2005-02-21 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
People with that lifestyle would consider it normal and respectful to go through the parents. IT wouldn't be objectifying her as much as it would be respect for her and the family.

Reminds me of a friend of mine. HE met his fiancee once, and still doesn't know where she lives exactly (just London). I dont think he'll get to know her directly until after they wed.

It's just not spoken about, I don't think.

And the ebay thing isn't so much objectifying I think as publicity. People do wacky stuff like this all the time just to get attention for their cause. :D


Date: 2005-02-21 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usnbfs.livejournal.com
High-metabolic rate
that's not a high standart, it just deserves a big WTF in my eyes.

Date: 2005-02-21 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usnbfs.livejournal.com
readheads = witches.

Date: 2005-02-21 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usnbfs.livejournal.com
wow, I match 3 of the 10 criteria listed.

Date: 2005-02-21 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usnbfs.livejournal.com
your icon <3
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