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It was so long we had to resetup Paramount Plus on the PS4, which was a job and a half.

Also, Jenn kept trying to guess the ending for one episode so I've banned her from watching with us. I mean, not really, but I'll probably keep saying it for a few more days.

We watched the one with the Demon class planet, which is sorta meh all around but which is important context for one of my favorite ever ST episodes. It's weird that that's my favorite episode, as it's sad and bleak and also doesn't really go anywhere, but I love it.

Then there's the one where Seven's basically all alone for a month, and honestly, this was a terrible idea all around. Voyager is a big ship, you can't run it with two people, and that's if you can expect everything to work smoothly with no problems which obviously they couldn't because of the scary nebula. They should've gone around. Also, at the end Harry makes an ill-conceived joke about Tom being locked up in small places as a child, and what if he had been, Harry? You'd feel awful, and from now on that's my new headcanon. Tom laughed, but he was only hiding his pain....

(Also, it's super weird to me that one of the first evil hallucinations Seven manifested was a creepy creepster. She was a Borg! She was assimilated as a small child! Where was she even drawing that from!?)

Then there's the one with the slipstream drive that's all an elaborate trap, and my man, I get that you're crazed with grief but I think you should have bigger priorities than some petty revenge.

And then there's Night. The crew spends half the episode moping that they're going through a boring, starless region of space. You'd think they'd be happy that they finally have time to finish their concertos and catch up on their reading, but apparently not! They only perk up when they have a chance to avert a genocide. Which, lemme say, they didn't even fucking try with that garbage hauler. I get that the episode and his behavior is supposed to be about us, but they could've pointed out to him that if he comes back with them he can have a monopoly over this cleansing device and make money hand over fist, easily twice as much as he's making now with a lot less risk and labor. But no, they'd rather write Hoggish Greedly instead, even though that characterization doesn't make any damn sense and it requires the crew to be completely undiplomatic.

I mean, I guess I'd be happy too if I could singlehandedly stop a genocide, but damn, I like a little downtime! What is wrong with them? I think they were just itching for a fight, and that's why they picked one.

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Date: 2025-05-14 06:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
The Voyager crew, like most of Starfleet, joined for interstellar ADVENTURE not reading while in space. Of course they prefer getting into fights to having some downtime, ahahahahaa. My strongest memory of that episode is Harry in the Captain's Chair, playing his clarinet. SO many jokes. SO MANY.

Date: 2025-05-19 12:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowkat
I remember rather liking Voyager, but outside of the Torres/Paris romance and Janeway, Seven & Q sparring, don't remember much of it. The best part of it was Torres/Paris - interestingly enough, both actors went on to become television/film directors and producers, and we rarely see them as actors any longer.

Janeway remains among my favorite Captains, partly because I love Kathryn Mulgrew - who I grew up watching on Ryan's Hope and in a mini-series in the 1980s.

Date: 2025-05-19 10:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowkat
Yes, also not as many problematic episodes, possibly due to the fact it's not as long? I don't know.
TNG had episodes that I can't watch (the one in which everyone turns into an ancestral creature due to a virus), and DS9 also had episodes I found difficult to watch. I did meet one of the writers of DS9 at a party in the 1990s. They wrote the episode about the science fiction writer. So DS9 did have some brilliant episodes in there as did TNG, true standouts, which I agree Voyager really didn't?
But Voyager is watchable and fun.

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