Isn't this illegal?
I'm sure there's an amendment about that... Let's see... *dredges up the 10th grade*
1. Speech, press, religion, assembly and petition
2. Bear arms
3. No quartering of soldiers in peacetime
4. No unreasonable search/seizures, "just cause"
5. No self-incriminating statements, no double jeopardy
6. Speedy, impartial jury trial
7. Trial by jury for civil suits >$20
8. No excessive bail, no cruel and unusual punishments
9. This list doesn't mean there aren't other rights
10. Rights not covered by the constitution are ceded to the states
I'm sure there's an amendment about that... Let's see... *dredges up the 10th grade*
1. Speech, press, religion, assembly and petition
2. Bear arms
3. No quartering of soldiers in peacetime
4. No unreasonable search/seizures, "just cause"
5. No self-incriminating statements, no double jeopardy
6. Speedy, impartial jury trial
7. Trial by jury for civil suits >$20
8. No excessive bail, no cruel and unusual punishments
9. This list doesn't mean there aren't other rights
10. Rights not covered by the constitution are ceded to the states
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Date: 2004-08-16 08:08 am (UTC)This doesn't grant you the right to say anything. The standard of "Fire in a movie theater" remains.
2. Bear Arms What this has to do with the FBI's investigation is beyond me. Anyhow the argument here remains "A well regulated militia being necessary..."
3. No quartering of soldiers in peacetime Again, What this has to do with the FBI's investigation is beyond me.
4. No unreasonable search/seizures, "just cause" . Have these people been compelled to testify? Have they received subpoena's,? Have they been held in contempt of court for refusing to testify?
5. No self-incriminating statements, no double jeopardy. Have they been held in contempt of court [and subsequently jailed] for refusing to testify?, The 5 amendment is for self-incrimination. If given immunity from prosecution you cannot refuse to testify.
6-10 Once again, what does this have to do with the investigation?
Seems to me the FBI is between the rock and the hard place. Published reports indicate that there are anarchy groups looking to disrupt the convention. (see seattle and other places)
This doesn't grant you the right to say <b> anything</b>. The standard of "Fire in a movie theater" remains.
<i> 2. Bear Arms </i> What this has to do with the FBI's investigation is beyond me. Anyhow the argument here remains "A well regulated militia being necessary..."
<i> 3. No quartering of soldiers in peacetime </i> Again, What this has to do with the FBI's investigation is beyond me.
<i> 4. No unreasonable search/seizures, "just cause" </i>. Have these people been compelled to testify? Have they received subpoena's,? Have they been held in contempt of court for refusing to testify?
<i> 5. No self-incriminating statements, no double jeopardy. </i> Have they been held in contempt of court [and subsequently jailed] for refusing to testify?, The 5 amendment is for self-incrimination. If given immunity from prosecution you cannot refuse to testify.
<i> 6-10 </i> Once again, what does this have to do with the investigation?
Seems to me the FBI is between the rock and the hard place. Published reports indicate that there are anarchy groups looking to disrupt the convention. (see seattle and other places) <img src="http://newmediaphoto.com/WTO/TG-WTO-05.JPG"">
If they take action they are condemned, if they don't and something happens they are crucified.
Gathering intelligence doesn't seem to be a bad way to approach this. I dont see anyone's individual rights violated.
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Date: 2004-08-16 08:12 am (UTC)If you were paying attention, you'd've seen that I was listing the entire bill of rights, regardless of appropriateness. Duh. I was also not defending any individual right. Please try again, and if you post any more pictures that aren't yours, prepare to have your comments deleted and yourself banned. I don't like bandwidth theft, not from people I don't even know.
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Date: 2004-08-16 08:13 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-08-16 11:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-08-16 11:56 am (UTC)But we can all recite the Miranda Warning:
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say...
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Date: 2004-08-16 12:31 pm (UTC)You know, US media has so firmly ingrained your version into my head that I simply could not remember what we get (never having had the experience ;0) "You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence is you do not mention when questioned something you later rely on in court."
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Date: 2004-08-16 09:13 am (UTC)How about right to privacy? Right to peaceful assembly? You might think investigation isn't an impediment to peaceful protest, but those who remember what the McCarthy hearings were like know what "investigation" can do to a person.
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Date: 2004-08-16 10:35 am (UTC)Oh wait...
YEAH THEY DO!