*glares*

[conuly]

http://www.livejournal.com/users/moggymania/231581.html

Evil people. I'm already pissed that there has to be the ADA. I'd've thought it was common sense that you don't make buildings people can't go in, or make it impossible for people to work - but apparently I was mistaken, and people bitch about this all the time.

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[celticess.livejournal.com]

No ADA where I am and things go fine. What they do have is the odd blurb in existing parlimentary acts if need be. With wheelchair ramps it's just part of building codes here. Much like I think buildings codes say for seniors living complexes that the counters are a little lower. Most people don't realize as they don't look particularly diffrent but they are.(my dad was in construction as a forman for around 20+ yrs and my sister was a drafts person before)

[redlami.livejournal.com]

I hope they don't take it out of the Texas platform. In fact I hope they put it into the National party platform. Let people see what this administration is really all about... division, discrimination, and disenfranchisement.

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

There's one reason I hate the ADA.

There was this great restaurant in the Redlands. It was a historical building... and of course, had no elevator to the second floor. A person in a wheelchair sued, and got the restaurant closed down. It's a historical building and they could not, by law, put in an elevator. The person wouldn't back down and understand, no matter how nicely it was explained. Who could be that spiteful?

Every time I think about it, my blood boils.

However. This is absolutely insane. People need it (when they don't go overboard, which is why I think it might be in the platform--"entitlement minded money grubbing"* is a big gripe among Republicans) and taking it away is... insane. Infectious diseases, wtf!?

*shit, sometimes this phrase is right on target.

[conuly]

There was this great restaurant in the Redlands. It was a historical building... and of course, had no elevator to the second floor. A person in a wheelchair sued, and got the restaurant closed down. It's a historical building and they could not, by law, put in an elevator. The person wouldn't back down and understand, no matter how nicely it was explained. Who could be that spiteful?

The problem is not that this person was being spiteful, the problem is that you have two contradictory laws working here. I'd say that the ADA should've trumped the historical building laws any day.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

Work on your paper, you!

[eofs.livejournal.com]

My friend was telling me yesterday that the MacDonalds in town has been under fire because it is basically impossible to open the doors if you're in a wheelchair. Their defence is actually kind of fair - if they make doors that can be opened from a wheelchair, they're concerned that children will also be able to open them, and it opens right onto a busy road. But it prevents a difficult situation for them...

The proposed amendment is plain stupid. Adding discrimination to an act to prevent discrimination would be hilarious were they not serious.

[conuly]

Their defence is actually kind of fair - if they make doors that can be opened from a wheelchair, they're concerned that children will also be able to open them, and it opens right onto a busy road. But it prevents a difficult situation for them...

See, this argument makes sense. There's only the one exit? And there's no way to compromise between accessibility and safety?

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Yes, just the one way in and out, and it's right onto the main road through town. I presume they will have to make some sort of compromise eventually, and I shall be interested to see what it is (for the time being wheelchair users on their own ring a bell and someone comes and lets them in.)

[celticess.livejournal.com]

No ADA where I am and things go fine. What they do have is the odd blurb in existing parlimentary acts if need be. With wheelchair ramps it's just part of building codes here. Much like I think buildings codes say for seniors living complexes that the counters are a little lower. Most people don't realize as they don't look particularly diffrent but they are.(my dad was in construction as a forman for around 20+ yrs and my sister was a drafts person before)

[redlami.livejournal.com]

I hope they don't take it out of the Texas platform. In fact I hope they put it into the National party platform. Let people see what this administration is really all about... division, discrimination, and disenfranchisement.

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

There's one reason I hate the ADA.

There was this great restaurant in the Redlands. It was a historical building... and of course, had no elevator to the second floor. A person in a wheelchair sued, and got the restaurant closed down. It's a historical building and they could not, by law, put in an elevator. The person wouldn't back down and understand, no matter how nicely it was explained. Who could be that spiteful?

Every time I think about it, my blood boils.

However. This is absolutely insane. People need it (when they don't go overboard, which is why I think it might be in the platform--"entitlement minded money grubbing"* is a big gripe among Republicans) and taking it away is... insane. Infectious diseases, wtf!?

*shit, sometimes this phrase is right on target.

[conuly]

There was this great restaurant in the Redlands. It was a historical building... and of course, had no elevator to the second floor. A person in a wheelchair sued, and got the restaurant closed down. It's a historical building and they could not, by law, put in an elevator. The person wouldn't back down and understand, no matter how nicely it was explained. Who could be that spiteful?

The problem is not that this person was being spiteful, the problem is that you have two contradictory laws working here. I'd say that the ADA should've trumped the historical building laws any day.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

Work on your paper, you!

[eofs.livejournal.com]

My friend was telling me yesterday that the MacDonalds in town has been under fire because it is basically impossible to open the doors if you're in a wheelchair. Their defence is actually kind of fair - if they make doors that can be opened from a wheelchair, they're concerned that children will also be able to open them, and it opens right onto a busy road. But it prevents a difficult situation for them...

The proposed amendment is plain stupid. Adding discrimination to an act to prevent discrimination would be hilarious were they not serious.

[conuly]

Their defence is actually kind of fair - if they make doors that can be opened from a wheelchair, they're concerned that children will also be able to open them, and it opens right onto a busy road. But it prevents a difficult situation for them...

See, this argument makes sense. There's only the one exit? And there's no way to compromise between accessibility and safety?

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Yes, just the one way in and out, and it's right onto the main road through town. I presume they will have to make some sort of compromise eventually, and I shall be interested to see what it is (for the time being wheelchair users on their own ring a bell and someone comes and lets them in.)