Damn, this is not the sort of rhetoric I expect from USA Today

[conuly]

A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes

LOL, that poll. Who the hell is scrolling to the bottom just to say they "don't know" how they feel about the editorial? Look, either you think Trump is the scum of the earth, or (somehow) the salt of the earth. How can you still be undecided about this!?

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[thewayne]

It wasn't just his lack of political experience that I thought was disqualifying for hm to be POTUS (among many, MANY other things), but his wilful ignorance as to the political process. Like when he had all of the House Republicans over to the White House for a kegger after they passed a bill, apparently not realizing that it had to go through the Senate next.

Then again, so many Americans don't understand how our gov't works anymore as we no longer teach civics in school.

[dewline]

Not just willful ignorance of the process, but DT-45 has always valued the capacity for willful cruelty to others...

And there are people who hope to (continue to) benefit from the promotion of such ignorance. Not all of them being American citizens. They have to be stopped from doing so.

[conuly]

I had a required civics course in school, and he is in his fucking 70s, so....

[thewayne]

Son of a rich kid.  Think he had to pay attention to graduate from HS?   All evidence indicates that he wasn't a particularly stellar student.  Though he brags about his academic performance, he has never produced a transcript and there are no records of him having been on the Dean's List.

[conuly]

He probably remembers it differently.

[peoriapeoriawhereart]

Couldn't they have learned much of what they needed to know of his character by watching an episode of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous (with Robin Leach)? Discounting the Apprentice, and his numerous cases of laying suit to small businesses with the temerity to demand being paid, I'd think that would be enough.

[pauraque]

I could imagine someone who is surrounded by Trump supporters and previously drank the kool aid, but who is starting to realize they've been deceived, feeling "undecided".

[conuly]

I guess.

[redbird]

I saw a poll on a completely different subject lately ("would you rather Northern Ireland joined the republic and stayed in the EU, or stayed in the UK and left the EU?") that got about 5% "undecided, but I would vote," which in that case I think meant "if there was an actual referendum, I'd start thinking hard about this, asking my friends, etc."

Note that USA Today managed a degree of "undecided" itself a year ago: they said Trump is unqualified for the presidency, but did not actually endorse Clinton.

[conuly]

I wonder what it'd look like if we did have formal qualifications for the presidency....

[redbird]

If we did, they'd probably have been written in 1787, like the minimal ones we have now, and add something like property ownership to the list. Or 1887, and might specify that only white men were eligible. (I'm fairly sure the only thing the constitution rules out is a religious test, though there are certainly people who won't vote for anyone who [they think] isn't a Christian, as well as people who won't vote for a non-white, or a woman (and not all of them are the same people.))

[zesty_pinto]

I feel a fair number of these supporters are taking this on a suicide path. The Politico article on Trump supporters in Johnstown, PA just told me a lot of those supporters are willing to see themselves going down with the ship if it meant killing congress after being neglected for so long.

The others who are having second thoughts probably already felt it before they made such realizations as when they thought ACA and Obamacare were two separate entities. If that reality check wasn't enough, or when Trump's attempt to remove Dreamers was rejected, or when his attempt to ban trans soldiers was rejected; anyone still in this who is keeping track of the news probably doesn't care if they're on the train as long as it explodes with a big enough bang.

[flexagon]

Salty scum? Scummy salt?