Sheesh.

Jun. 3rd, 2012 10:08 am
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I just went through and marked all 28 illiterate "reviews" of this book - a book that does not come out until October! - as "inappropriate".

It's the total inability to write that bugs me, but the rank inflation doesn't help either. Anybody want to do the same? It might seem petty, but when you're done there's a nice sense of satisfaction from accomplishing something relatively easy.

Date: 2012-06-04 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
LOL, some of Laurell K. Hamilton's books ought not to exist either. Nothing bogs a series down like too much sex.

My one housemate is 78 - he's got long hair now, but in the 60's he was a respectable husband, father and public-school teacher, and he fussed his eldest son rather a lot about his hair. Reportedly, none of his fussing at his kids ever did any good, but they turned out more or less okay anyhow..

"Why people who can presumably speak fluently refuse to at least write the way they speak I simply cannot grasp"

..... several hypotheses spring to mind:

1. The presumption that they can speak fluently may be erroneous. Lots of people can't, y'know - they stammer, repeat, mispronounce, drop consonants, confuse tenses and number, mix up their pronouns and their subject/verb agreement - it's just that verbal speech goes fast and leaves no trail, so people can more easily 'pass'. for fluent speakers even if they really aren't.

2. If they do speak fluently, the presumption that they refuse to write the way they speak may be erroneous. They may not realize that they don't write the way they speak, because their reading skills are no better than their writing skills, and since they know what they meant to say, when they look at the page, that's what they see,even though that's not what it actually says. Verbal and written speech are apples-and-oranges; receptive language and expressive language are not the same program. Lots of people 'know' they write poorly, and want to write better, but it's difficult to get them started because they can't see their mistakes - which makes perfect sense, because if they knew they were mistakes, they wouldn't have made them.

3. Whether or not they speak fluently, the presumption that they care enough about coherent writing to either strive for it or refuse it may be erroneous. It seems more likely that they pay no attention to such things, slam out the wrds however they fall, and never look back to see what they wrote.

Date: 2012-06-06 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
"How somebody can write so much tedious, tedious, tedious sex just boggles the imagination."

I know, right? It's the epitome of Vanilla Mary Sue new-age 'erotica', which always sounds like it's been written by someone who never actually had any sex, but knows that it's supposed to be Beautiful and Spiritual, and also that the man is spoze to be Superbly Endowed. It's just embarrassing, like watching someone trying to masturbate but failing at it.

Alas, if the parents of these reviewers were the sort to get them tutors, doubtless they'd have tutors already. Or maybe they do have tutors, but it ain't working - it doesn't always work; I had more math tutors than you can shake a stick at, from second grade right through my senior year of college, and was still mediocre at it.

I too find it irritating when I have to decipher sloppy writing, but not as irritating as I once did. It's like you said once, "Oh noes! Someone is Wrong on the Internet!" - these are clearly kids; they probably do write better than that when it's for a grade, but even if they don't, what is that to me? They're not my kids; their ignorance is not my responsibility to correct, and nothing makes the face freeze 'that way' faster than fretting over other peoples' annoying but harmless behaviors.

Therefore, if only for the sake of sheer vanity, I must say "meh", and thine eternal summer shall not fade so fast if thou learnest to say it too, preferably while smiling slightly like the Mona Lisa. The ignorant we shall have with us always, and nothing can be done for most of them: one simply has to accept that, and concentrate on teaching the teachable few.

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