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If I take the s48 bus to the Pathmark, I pass a large anti-abortion center with two very large signs on it:

"Abortion stops a beating heart" and "The NATURAL choice is life!"

Ahem.

1. Abortion stops a beating heart. Yeah, I guess it does. Well, I don't really know because I haven't done the exhaustive research I am sure everyone in your center has (warning for the sarcasm-impaired... that was it), but I still don't think it matters. I'm not a vegetarian. Somehow, I suspect that many of the people who think that's a wonderful argument chow down on the meat just as much as I do. Possibly more so. And meat, wow, that stops a beating heart, it also stops brain functions, which is not something you can say for most abortions. And that's really the big part of my criteria, to avoid hypocrisy. Brain activity. Whatever it is, it has to be somewhat capable of thought.

2. The NATURAL choice is life. Sure is! The natural choice also is death. Death? Yes, if you eschew antibiotics, transfusions, organ donations, most medicines... oh wait, I guess many medicines CAN be made from plants, so if you take those, you're fine. But... some plants are natural abortificants. Hm. Maybe sometimes the natural choice IS an abortion! And death. It's definitely death. Oh, for all those unaborted babies? The natural choice is breastmilk. Definitely. If you're going on about the natural choice, I'd better not see you feed your kids formula. Cause, you know, hypocrisy kinda sucks.

Now, I'll be fair, I think there are a number of perfectly good reasons to PRIVATELY believe abortion is wrong, and a few to justify PUBLICLY campaigning against it. But those two aren't it, and they make your entire movement look stupid. Plus, they're unnecessarily emotive. If your argument were a good one, you wouldn't have to cheap tricks like that.


(edit) Yes, I realize that all animals are capable of thought, by "thought" I meant "higher thought, somewhat similar to how humans think". And yes, I like to pretend that animals I don't know don't go near that, it keeps me sane.

Date: 2004-03-07 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
You know what's funny? All of the 'pro-life' billboards I've seen have got the UGLIEST babies on them, screaming 'I WISH I WERE ABORTED, OH GOD WHY????'

Just my two cents. :P

Date: 2004-03-07 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
Image
Abortion is love (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sdw/116980.html)


;D

Date: 2004-03-08 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
I think the exact same thing. Every time I see those signs I go: "Screw abortion, I'd throw that thing in a blender!"

And the "Your mother was pro-life" bill boards... don't start me on that.

Date: 2004-03-08 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Nope. [livejournal.com profile] maranta isn't, and she's supposed to be the nazi queen bee of prolifers (and quite ban happy if you don't fill her mold of "pro-choicers are evil, baby killing fuckers.") That's hearsay, but it comes from other prolifers.

My mother's not prolife either. I just can't fathom this "you have to be pro life to want baaaaaybees!"

Date: 2004-03-08 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com
What an odd sign, considering most abortions are done before a heart even develops.

Date: 2004-03-08 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meghanx.livejournal.com
Actually that's true. If it were to make sense, it'd be 'abortion stops a heart from beating'. I suppose?

Date: 2004-03-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meteorie.livejournal.com
I really get tired of abortion arguements, particularly, the pro-life ones, because they seem to be the only ones making billboards and stuff (at least, in my area) I'm all for choice. And really, like someone else said, most abortions are done before the heart is beating. You're not killing anyone, it's still a part of you. And if people are so worried about fetuses, what about the millions of cows that are dying everyday? Shouldn't pro-life mean ALL life? (except most anti-abortionists have religious reasons, and it's OK to slaughter innocent animals but not mindless fetuses)

We had to do an abortion debate in Speech & Debate, and guess what side I was on? Anti-Abortion! It sucked, because we had NO arguments. Just crap like "you all are baby killers!" which is hardly true >.<;

Date: 2004-03-07 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
You know what's funny? All of the 'pro-life' billboards I've seen have got the UGLIEST babies on them, screaming 'I WISH I WERE ABORTED, OH GOD WHY????'

Just my two cents. :P

Date: 2004-03-07 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
Image
Abortion is love (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sdw/116980.html)


;D

Date: 2004-03-08 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
I think the exact same thing. Every time I see those signs I go: "Screw abortion, I'd throw that thing in a blender!"

And the "Your mother was pro-life" bill boards... don't start me on that.

Date: 2004-03-08 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Nope. [livejournal.com profile] maranta isn't, and she's supposed to be the nazi queen bee of prolifers (and quite ban happy if you don't fill her mold of "pro-choicers are evil, baby killing fuckers.") That's hearsay, but it comes from other prolifers.

My mother's not prolife either. I just can't fathom this "you have to be pro life to want baaaaaybees!"

Date: 2004-03-08 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com
What an odd sign, considering most abortions are done before a heart even develops.

Date: 2004-03-08 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meghanx.livejournal.com
Actually that's true. If it were to make sense, it'd be 'abortion stops a heart from beating'. I suppose?

Date: 2004-03-08 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meteorie.livejournal.com
I really get tired of abortion arguements, particularly, the pro-life ones, because they seem to be the only ones making billboards and stuff (at least, in my area) I'm all for choice. And really, like someone else said, most abortions are done before the heart is beating. You're not killing anyone, it's still a part of you. And if people are so worried about fetuses, what about the millions of cows that are dying everyday? Shouldn't pro-life mean ALL life? (except most anti-abortionists have religious reasons, and it's OK to slaughter innocent animals but not mindless fetuses)

We had to do an abortion debate in Speech & Debate, and guess what side I was on? Anti-Abortion! It sucked, because we had NO arguments. Just crap like "you all are baby killers!" which is hardly true >.<;

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