Okay, this is starting to irritate me.
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I'm not a perfect speller. I misspelled separate today, as I often do. It just LOOKS wrong with an a instead of an e. But I do spell marginally correctly.
Compare:
Hi I'm a history idiot and I have a huge test in my AP US History class tomorrow that I know nothing about so I was wondering i you all ould help a littl please!!
This was posted in a history community I read.
First off, I found the concept mildly offensive. We have nothing better to do than to do your homework FOR you? People generally don't mind helping, but most of us draw the line at doing your homework (and that was what she was asking, though I didn't c+p that part). And of course the fact that a "history idiot" is taking an AP class and didn't think to study until today.
However, let's look at the spelling. See all the typos? Now, I am told I type very quickly, 87 wpm. I don't make that many mistakes. When I make a mistake, I see it, and immediately correct it. If you're typing slowly, you should be able to not make mistakes. If you're typing quickly, you should be able to see the screen and notice when you've messed up. Either way, it seems to me that common courtesy would dictate that you at least scan your work and change obvious mistakes like "ould" and "littl" before posting. Possibly even capitalize correctly. Even if you can't do this... LJ has a spell-check feature. I seriously am starting to see this as disrespectful... you care so little for our opinions of you that you don't even bother to run spell-check? Frankly, I don't see how you can go on the internet for more than a week without finding that most people WILL judge you on your spelling. And if you're going to ask for something, the least you could do is pretend to care about their opinions and present yourself the best way possible.
My English professor does the same thing. She talks and talks about "spellcheck isn't good enough", but you look at the handouts and emails you get from her, she obviously doesn't even bother with that. So we're supposed to have a higher quality of work than she is.
Compare:
Hi I'm a history idiot and I have a huge test in my AP US History class tomorrow that I know nothing about so I was wondering i you all ould help a littl please!!
This was posted in a history community I read.
First off, I found the concept mildly offensive. We have nothing better to do than to do your homework FOR you? People generally don't mind helping, but most of us draw the line at doing your homework (and that was what she was asking, though I didn't c+p that part). And of course the fact that a "history idiot" is taking an AP class and didn't think to study until today.
However, let's look at the spelling. See all the typos? Now, I am told I type very quickly, 87 wpm. I don't make that many mistakes. When I make a mistake, I see it, and immediately correct it. If you're typing slowly, you should be able to not make mistakes. If you're typing quickly, you should be able to see the screen and notice when you've messed up. Either way, it seems to me that common courtesy would dictate that you at least scan your work and change obvious mistakes like "ould" and "littl" before posting. Possibly even capitalize correctly. Even if you can't do this... LJ has a spell-check feature. I seriously am starting to see this as disrespectful... you care so little for our opinions of you that you don't even bother to run spell-check? Frankly, I don't see how you can go on the internet for more than a week without finding that most people WILL judge you on your spelling. And if you're going to ask for something, the least you could do is pretend to care about their opinions and present yourself the best way possible.
My English professor does the same thing. She talks and talks about "spellcheck isn't good enough", but you look at the handouts and emails you get from her, she obviously doesn't even bother with that. So we're supposed to have a higher quality of work than she is.
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Hope you don't mind me
Date: 2004-03-06 11:21 pm (UTC)Part of it is probably my pride at being a hyperlexic autist, part of it is my use of neologisms and foreign phrases, and part of it is that I'm just lazy.
Re: Hope you don't mind me
Date: 2004-03-06 11:39 pm (UTC)I rarely spellcheck either, only when I think I misspelled something. But I don't misspell a lot of words, and I know how to type.
This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:02 am (UTC)I didn't mind the posts, I don't take anything online too seriously; but this got to me just a little. See, unlike you I take the time to get to know someone before I judge them. I read your user info and scanned through your journal a little and the ironc thing about this whole situation is we actually have a lot in common. I also want to major in Spanish, and I love neopets...I just don't spell check.
So since you asked people to do this here goes...you offended me. I'll even tell you how. The comments for one, assuming that I don't study, implying that I am an idiot, saying that I am its a disgrace for me to be in an AP class...you don't even know anything about me.
Im not even trying to start a virtual fight here, I'm just trying to say that maybe I'm not as horrible as you appear to think I am...because you don't seem like as big of a bitch as I thought you were.
So PEACE...seriously, lets have a truce. I think if we met under any other circumstances we might have actually got along.
And I'm also a comment whore
Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:35 am (UTC)You said you're an idiot at history. Your post made it seem that you're completely unprepared for that test. If that's true, WHY ARE YOU IN AN AP CLASS? If I'm an idiot at a subject, I don't take the advanced version of the class. I stay far away from that because I don't like making a fool out of myself and getting bad grades. Maybe it's just me, but the words "I am an idiot in this subject" and "I need help with this test I'm taking TOMORROW" imply "I didn't study". I know *I* never use those phrases unless I didn't study... something that occurs far too often, alas.
You are the one who chose to type something that had blatant errors in it. It would have taken all of five seconds to re-read your post and fix those errors. I'm not talking about misspelling a word, you had blatant typoes like "littl". Yes I know I just said blatant twice. To me, this shows extreme disrespect for the reader. I don't need to read your journal to see that you didn't even bother to check your own work in a community, where you were asking for help. If it had been spelling errors, I wouldn't have posted. Some people really don't know the difference between to/too/two. But these are typos. It takes a second to see them and say "oops, I want to look good when asking for help instead of look rushed/lazy".
Now, as it happens, picking on you is a way of avoiding yelling at my friends who can't spell, or rather, who can spell but don't bother to. Dyslexics and nonnative speakers are excused, though strongly encouraged to use spellcheck. Frankly, I'd rather piss off a random stranger than my friends. I don't expect random strangers to read my journal, whereas I hope my friends do. So, as far as that goes, I'm sorry, I honestly didn't realize you'd read this, and had I, it'd've been locked or not posted. I'd've made up an example.
I wasn't even going to post any comments here...I was just taking a look at your journal to get a better idea of who the person was who was so nice to me, and I came across this entry that was blatently insulting me.
Um. I was pretty pissed at you there. I was nice? Wow. Huh. I really am NOT good at giving the right signals. Like I've said, if you're gonna ask for homework help, you should at least show some of the work. That actually gets you help, instead of a lot of bitching and complaints and snarky comments in personal journals.
Now that my anger is used up, I really do apologise. Am not gonna edit my post (always seems like lying to do that, so I never delete or drastically edit posts), but will certainly try to do better in the future.
Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:40 am (UTC)man-eating kimodo dragonsbutterflies.Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 03:20 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 03:21 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 07:28 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:45 am (UTC)But when you asked people for help, it wasn't capitalized, there were two very obvious typos right in plain sight, and so on. Doesn't look like you put a lot of effort into asking for help, like you don't really care.
And yes, I do need to have an even number of posts.
no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 05:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 09:26 am (UTC)-Extensive notes
-Good writing skills, including spelling because in the AP test you have write essays sans spell checker
-Studying, rereading text
etc.
There is no easy way out of studying and no way some sort of internet help the day before a test could help...
no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 05:27 pm (UTC)I don't like it when people type like "o hey wutz ^ o s/h itz so0o gr8!!!" Agh, that's horrible. When I talk on AIM, I don't talk CLOSE to that. Lol, brb and lmao are some of the only shortcuts I use.
My brothers teachers, when they email my mom, half the time they don't use capitals, periods or bother checking the spelling. I don't that's good for a teacher..
no subject
Date: 2004-03-08 08:53 am (UTC)Hope you don't mind me
Date: 2004-03-06 11:21 pm (UTC)Part of it is probably my pride at being a hyperlexic autist, part of it is my use of neologisms and foreign phrases, and part of it is that I'm just lazy.
Re: Hope you don't mind me
Date: 2004-03-06 11:39 pm (UTC)I rarely spellcheck either, only when I think I misspelled something. But I don't misspell a lot of words, and I know how to type.
This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:02 am (UTC)I didn't mind the posts, I don't take anything online too seriously; but this got to me just a little. See, unlike you I take the time to get to know someone before I judge them. I read your user info and scanned through your journal a little and the ironc thing about this whole situation is we actually have a lot in common. I also want to major in Spanish, and I love neopets...I just don't spell check.
So since you asked people to do this here goes...you offended me. I'll even tell you how. The comments for one, assuming that I don't study, implying that I am an idiot, saying that I am its a disgrace for me to be in an AP class...you don't even know anything about me.
Im not even trying to start a virtual fight here, I'm just trying to say that maybe I'm not as horrible as you appear to think I am...because you don't seem like as big of a bitch as I thought you were.
So PEACE...seriously, lets have a truce. I think if we met under any other circumstances we might have actually got along.
And I'm also a comment whore
Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:35 am (UTC)You said you're an idiot at history. Your post made it seem that you're completely unprepared for that test. If that's true, WHY ARE YOU IN AN AP CLASS? If I'm an idiot at a subject, I don't take the advanced version of the class. I stay far away from that because I don't like making a fool out of myself and getting bad grades. Maybe it's just me, but the words "I am an idiot in this subject" and "I need help with this test I'm taking TOMORROW" imply "I didn't study". I know *I* never use those phrases unless I didn't study... something that occurs far too often, alas.
You are the one who chose to type something that had blatant errors in it. It would have taken all of five seconds to re-read your post and fix those errors. I'm not talking about misspelling a word, you had blatant typoes like "littl". Yes I know I just said blatant twice. To me, this shows extreme disrespect for the reader. I don't need to read your journal to see that you didn't even bother to check your own work in a community, where you were asking for help. If it had been spelling errors, I wouldn't have posted. Some people really don't know the difference between to/too/two. But these are typos. It takes a second to see them and say "oops, I want to look good when asking for help instead of look rushed/lazy".
Now, as it happens, picking on you is a way of avoiding yelling at my friends who can't spell, or rather, who can spell but don't bother to. Dyslexics and nonnative speakers are excused, though strongly encouraged to use spellcheck. Frankly, I'd rather piss off a random stranger than my friends. I don't expect random strangers to read my journal, whereas I hope my friends do. So, as far as that goes, I'm sorry, I honestly didn't realize you'd read this, and had I, it'd've been locked or not posted. I'd've made up an example.
I wasn't even going to post any comments here...I was just taking a look at your journal to get a better idea of who the person was who was so nice to me, and I came across this entry that was blatently insulting me.
Um. I was pretty pissed at you there. I was nice? Wow. Huh. I really am NOT good at giving the right signals. Like I've said, if you're gonna ask for homework help, you should at least show some of the work. That actually gets you help, instead of a lot of bitching and complaints and snarky comments in personal journals.
Now that my anger is used up, I really do apologise. Am not gonna edit my post (always seems like lying to do that, so I never delete or drastically edit posts), but will certainly try to do better in the future.
Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:40 am (UTC)man-eating kimodo dragonsbutterflies.Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 03:20 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 03:21 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 07:28 pm (UTC)Re: This is spell checked and capitalized...
Date: 2004-03-07 12:45 am (UTC)But when you asked people for help, it wasn't capitalized, there were two very obvious typos right in plain sight, and so on. Doesn't look like you put a lot of effort into asking for help, like you don't really care.
And yes, I do need to have an even number of posts.
no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 05:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 09:26 am (UTC)-Extensive notes
-Good writing skills, including spelling because in the AP test you have write essays sans spell checker
-Studying, rereading text
etc.
There is no easy way out of studying and no way some sort of internet help the day before a test could help...
no subject
Date: 2004-03-07 05:27 pm (UTC)I don't like it when people type like "o hey wutz ^ o s/h itz so0o gr8!!!" Agh, that's horrible. When I talk on AIM, I don't talk CLOSE to that. Lol, brb and lmao are some of the only shortcuts I use.
My brothers teachers, when they email my mom, half the time they don't use capitals, periods or bother checking the spelling. I don't that's good for a teacher..
no subject
Date: 2004-03-08 08:53 am (UTC)