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And there's the usual group of neighbors swearing up and down that the dad never did a thing wrong by his son until then, kid was inseperable from him, loved him very much - and one or two saying that they *saw* the man being inexplicably violent towards his kid. ACS had already been called before, for other reasons.

I didn't post about this before because, it's the weirdest thing, when I first saw the article, it was on NY1 (my homepage on this computer), and it was about a father claiming "the voices told me to kill him". Sad, but not a personal interest to me. One can't write about *every* murder.

And now we have an entirely different story (whether it's the same man or not, I don't know), and I've been puzzling it over in my mind before posting. This story, the father says his friends encouraged him to kill his son. Well, bully for them, they're accomplices to murder. Great job.

Happy thanksgiving, everybody.

Date: 2006-11-24 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
ACS I found out knows shit about development and disabled kids, and couldn't have offered a damn bit of help.

NYC can be so messed up when it comes to family support. I suspect this father is a whackjob to begin with (well, duh) but I think the damn city is just about as responsible as the father. Not because of the ACS thing but before it even got to the point where he would even consider being violent.

Unless you are well educated and have time on your hands AND money and luck, you're left floundering with no support, no backup, no nothing. Parenting under the best of circumstances (emotional, financial, etc.) is hard enough. Keep throwing things at a parent and don't give em any help and I'm surprised this doesn't happen more frequently. (I don't mean killing autistic kids, I mean killing them, period.)

I keep thinking about when D. is done with his apprenticeship, about moving back. But I am too scared. I am too scared I'd go over the edge and lose it when I wouldn't get the help we need.

What kind of sick bastards encourage someone to kill their kid? That's absolutely insane. Crazier than killing your kid in the first place. If anyone suggested I kill my kid, I would kill THEM.

Date: 2006-11-25 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
ACS is fucked up.
I had ranty things to say but it just would have freaked me out and sent me to a breakdown. I still have nightmares about that gestapo-like agency and wish everyone in it a speedy and painful death.

I can't even be objective anymore about NYC and disabled children and the working poor. I think my entire family is very damaged from the hell we went through but I never shared in LJ. I am not surprised at all that someone killed their child. Not one bit. Only surprised that it doesn't happen more often.

Wonder if the 'other people' gave a thought about what they could do to help (other than the ones who suggested killing).

Date: 2006-11-24 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
I've done a little digging this morning, admittedly not very much, read about six newspaper articles and I still can't find any reference to either "the voices told me to do it" or that the neighbors had. I could completely believe it, I just wanted to quote it and I couldn't.

What got a laugh out of me was the neighbors saying they never saw him abuse the kid, yet admitting they saw him slam the kid up against the wall, etc.

Date: 2006-11-24 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
ACS I found out knows shit about development and disabled kids, and couldn't have offered a damn bit of help.

NYC can be so messed up when it comes to family support. I suspect this father is a whackjob to begin with (well, duh) but I think the damn city is just about as responsible as the father. Not because of the ACS thing but before it even got to the point where he would even consider being violent.

Unless you are well educated and have time on your hands AND money and luck, you're left floundering with no support, no backup, no nothing. Parenting under the best of circumstances (emotional, financial, etc.) is hard enough. Keep throwing things at a parent and don't give em any help and I'm surprised this doesn't happen more frequently. (I don't mean killing autistic kids, I mean killing them, period.)

I keep thinking about when D. is done with his apprenticeship, about moving back. But I am too scared. I am too scared I'd go over the edge and lose it when I wouldn't get the help we need.

What kind of sick bastards encourage someone to kill their kid? That's absolutely insane. Crazier than killing your kid in the first place. If anyone suggested I kill my kid, I would kill THEM.

Date: 2006-11-25 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
ACS is fucked up.
I had ranty things to say but it just would have freaked me out and sent me to a breakdown. I still have nightmares about that gestapo-like agency and wish everyone in it a speedy and painful death.

I can't even be objective anymore about NYC and disabled children and the working poor. I think my entire family is very damaged from the hell we went through but I never shared in LJ. I am not surprised at all that someone killed their child. Not one bit. Only surprised that it doesn't happen more often.

Wonder if the 'other people' gave a thought about what they could do to help (other than the ones who suggested killing).

Date: 2006-11-24 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
I've done a little digging this morning, admittedly not very much, read about six newspaper articles and I still can't find any reference to either "the voices told me to do it" or that the neighbors had. I could completely believe it, I just wanted to quote it and I couldn't.

What got a laugh out of me was the neighbors saying they never saw him abuse the kid, yet admitting they saw him slam the kid up against the wall, etc.

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