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To take a random example that actually happened to me lately, suppose you tell somebody about why juice isn't good for young kids - it's a lot of sugar, not a lot of nutrients, not a lot of fiber - all the bad stuff about fruit without the goodness of fruit.

(Here's where I tangent and mention that if you currently do not have anything to do with young children, you should get out now. People get so defensive about their kids - you say 'Hey, formula isn't as good as breastmilk' and they act like you just called them all kinds of bad names and insinuated that they beat their kids. You say 'Well, we don't watch much TV in our house' and they either call you a liar, call you self-righteous, whine about being judged, or do all three at the same time. I'm so not joking. Adults? With children? Are apparently almost all batshit insane.

I fear that even I have not escaped this....)

And further down on the commenting (your comment doesn't matter), somebody says "Well, I don't think it's evil - after all, it's better than soda, right?"

Of course, when discussing the diet of a baby, I hope you're not giving them soda! The choice is not between juice and soda. It's between juice and water, juice and milk/formula. But that's what people say.

And they do this in situations not involving kids and batshit insanity as well, but that's a recent thing that I remembered.

Seriously, why? It's completely illogical, and it's illogic of the nature that even a young child could recognize. Isn't it the false dichtomy?

Point is, it's bad. It's our logical fallacy of the randomly determined period of time, folks, and I expect you to avoid it!

Otherwise, I'll send Evangeline after you. She bites. You'll become a were-baby. See if I don't.

Date: 2006-08-08 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com
I'd like to give this information to all the people who want to replace pop in schools with juice. I'd also like to tell them that as a diabetic, I would not have been happy if they replaced the pop -- both regular and sugar-free pop -- in the vending machines at my school with very-high-in-sugar juice.

Date: 2006-08-08 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Uh, as a freak who will not drink water... I am glad that juice and milk were always available for me at school. I probably ran into a lot of problems as a child from being dehydrated without understanding it. Yes, that's rare, but ... options are good.

But I am very anti-soda. I don't mind juice in moderation. I figure a balanced diet is all about the balanced part.

The false dichotomies do suck though.

I drank a lot of iced tea and I still do (unsweetened, anything else is blasphemy).

Date: 2006-08-08 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownkitty.livejournal.com
It's an attempt at blame deflection. "I may be bad, but at least I'm not THIS bad."

Date: 2006-08-08 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabel.livejournal.com
…somebody says "Well, I don't think it's evil - after all, it's better than soda, right?"

Even if it wasn't a false dichotomy, it's completely stupid. To shift somewhat farther down the toxicity scale, rat poison is better for you than hydroflouric acid, but that doesn't make rat poison okay...

Date: 2006-08-08 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com
I'd like to give this information to all the people who want to replace pop in schools with juice. I'd also like to tell them that as a diabetic, I would not have been happy if they replaced the pop -- both regular and sugar-free pop -- in the vending machines at my school with very-high-in-sugar juice.

Date: 2006-08-08 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Uh, as a freak who will not drink water... I am glad that juice and milk were always available for me at school. I probably ran into a lot of problems as a child from being dehydrated without understanding it. Yes, that's rare, but ... options are good.

But I am very anti-soda. I don't mind juice in moderation. I figure a balanced diet is all about the balanced part.

The false dichotomies do suck though.

I drank a lot of iced tea and I still do (unsweetened, anything else is blasphemy).

Date: 2006-08-08 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownkitty.livejournal.com
It's an attempt at blame deflection. "I may be bad, but at least I'm not THIS bad."

Date: 2006-08-08 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabel.livejournal.com
…somebody says "Well, I don't think it's evil - after all, it's better than soda, right?"

Even if it wasn't a false dichotomy, it's completely stupid. To shift somewhat farther down the toxicity scale, rat poison is better for you than hydroflouric acid, but that doesn't make rat poison okay...

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