Oh, god.

[conuly]

"Apples are so sweet, and they're wholesome, and it's biblical," Ms. Paltrow said in an interview with Oprah Winfrey in 2004. "And I just thought it sounded so lovely and clean."

Jezebel is a biblical name too, and antifreeze is considered to be sweet (sweet apples are rather icky, anyway - I prefer the tart ones).

It's not the name that bothers me (I mean, it is, but that's not what I'm talking about), it's the "Apple is biblical" argument. Because, first off, it's not (apple in the Bible means fruit, and not apple) and secondly - no. Just... no. If you like the name, fine... but pick a better reason.

Comments

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA yeah, I was gonna say. She shoulda named her Fruit!

[literalgirl.livejournal.com]

I am pretty sure there was a character named "Apple" in Coraline (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380977788/ref=ed_oe_h/102-7671157-8628953?%5Fencoding=UTF8), before she named her kid. At least, I think Coraline predates her offspring. :-)

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Apples are also heathen. The apples of Iðunn kept the Æsir young forever. Not to mention that apples are native to China, and are therefor oriental.

[mhari.livejournal.com]

He needs a kid brother Pomegranate.

[mayna.livejournal.com]

*snork*
lmao

apple in the Bible

[pne.livejournal.com]

apple in the Bible means fruit, and not apple

Where's it mention apples in the Bible, anyway?

I had a look (in the KJV) (http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=apple), and most of the results were either "apple of his/the/thine eye" (metaphorical use, and who knows whether the Hebrew used the same metaphor) or forms of apply; the only matches for the fruit were in Proverbs ("apples of gold in pictures of silver"), the Song of Solomon (two matches for "apple", two for "apple tree"), and in Joel (where an apple tree is mentioned). Not an awful lot.

I suppose she was thinking of the Adam-and-Eve story, but Gen. 3:6 only mentions "fruit" (at least in KJV). Was that what you were thinking of when you said "apple in the Bible means fruit, and not apple"?

(FWIW, one story I heard to explain why popular thinking makes the unnamed fruit an apple in particular is the Latin word-play between malum and mālum, one of which means "apple" and the other of which means "evil", IIRC, though I forget which is which.)

Other "in the Bible means" things I'm familiar with, though, are "meat" = "food" and "deer" = "animal(s)". (This in reference to the KJV, again, with its centuries-old language.) I've also heard it claimed that the "kill" in "Thou shalt not kill" is more like what we call "murder", and that generic "cause someone to die, premeditated/at fault or not" would have been "slay".

Re: apple in the Bible

[conuly]

That's exactly it. Apple is the example I was always given as a child (no telling whether or not it's true) of a word that used to mean one thing and now means another - used to mean fruit, now it means a specific *type* of fruit.

[ladyshrew.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA yeah, I was gonna say. She shoulda named her Fruit!

[literalgirl.livejournal.com]

I am pretty sure there was a character named "Apple" in Coraline (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380977788/ref=ed_oe_h/102-7671157-8628953?%5Fencoding=UTF8), before she named her kid. At least, I think Coraline predates her offspring. :-)

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Apples are also heathen. The apples of Iðunn kept the Æsir young forever. Not to mention that apples are native to China, and are therefor oriental.

[mhari.livejournal.com]

He needs a kid brother Pomegranate.

[mayna.livejournal.com]

*snork*
lmao

apple in the Bible

[pne.livejournal.com]

apple in the Bible means fruit, and not apple

Where's it mention apples in the Bible, anyway?

I had a look (in the KJV) (http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=apple), and most of the results were either "apple of his/the/thine eye" (metaphorical use, and who knows whether the Hebrew used the same metaphor) or forms of apply; the only matches for the fruit were in Proverbs ("apples of gold in pictures of silver"), the Song of Solomon (two matches for "apple", two for "apple tree"), and in Joel (where an apple tree is mentioned). Not an awful lot.

I suppose she was thinking of the Adam-and-Eve story, but Gen. 3:6 only mentions "fruit" (at least in KJV). Was that what you were thinking of when you said "apple in the Bible means fruit, and not apple"?

(FWIW, one story I heard to explain why popular thinking makes the unnamed fruit an apple in particular is the Latin word-play between malum and mālum, one of which means "apple" and the other of which means "evil", IIRC, though I forget which is which.)

Other "in the Bible means" things I'm familiar with, though, are "meat" = "food" and "deer" = "animal(s)". (This in reference to the KJV, again, with its centuries-old language.) I've also heard it claimed that the "kill" in "Thou shalt not kill" is more like what we call "murder", and that generic "cause someone to die, premeditated/at fault or not" would have been "slay".

Re: apple in the Bible

[conuly]

That's exactly it. Apple is the example I was always given as a child (no telling whether or not it's true) of a word that used to mean one thing and now means another - used to mean fruit, now it means a specific *type* of fruit.