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Somebody posted an argument against PPT here. What she says agrees with what I've heard from other people, and so far nobody has even tried to show actual proof that she's wrong. So I'm inclined to agree with her.

However, she posts, and gets attacked by the dreaded sillies.

1. Okay, Ms. Anonymous poster? I don't think you're actually the person you claim to be... I've spoken to someone else who I believed was Shoomlah, and she did not resort so quickly to crude invectives.

2. Crediting the site does NOT mean you have permission to use the images from neopets. Posting "used with permission" also does NOT mean you actually have permission. The ToS specifically forbids using images on sites with ads. Furthermore, you can find hosts that don't put ads on your site.

3. Spyware isn't the same as viruses, so please stop saying "I haven't gotten a virus yet!!!"

4. There are other sites which do many of the same things PPT does. When people have repeatedly mentioned the names of such sites, claiming you "never saw a link to one of those sites in the arguments" is a bit silly. When people have, in fact, posted a few links (I know I had), it's not silly, it's stupid.

1. Neocolours
2. Neoitems
3. Neoholic
4. Neononsense
5. Soupfaerie

There are other sites, feel free to post including them (I don't have the soupfaerie URL, and feel I should include it for completeness, if somebody could post it?)

I have found those sites to 1. be very good at what they do 2. do so better than PPT, especially neoholic and 3. NO POPUPS!

5. Just because somebody posts there under the name borovan does NOT mean that Adam posts there. It's called lying.

6. Plenty of people store credit card numbers on their computers. It's called SHOPPING ONLINE or BANKING ONLINE or PAYING BILLS ONLINE.

7. If every site you go to has massive popups, you have problems. One should not have to download a popup blocker to go to PPT when there are other sites they can go to which are just as good (in fact, in some ways better) AND DO NOT HAVE POPUPS OR SPYWARE.

8. No matter WHICH side you're on, posting stupid flames and insults is childish. If you must insult somebody, do so intelligently... it's so much more condescending ;)

Date: 2003-12-10 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
*claps*

What I find funny is that all of the posters on the PPT side (save for a small few) have been unable to GET TO THE POINT. They seem to be VERY uninformed, and they're flamers. Not GOOD flamers, suckyfucky ones! Arrr!

Date: 2003-12-10 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Shoomlah is/was a neopets artist, quite a coincidence...

Date: 2003-12-10 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiana.livejournal.com
www.soup-faerie.com =)

*glomp* I appreciate you taking the time to think out your reply in what I had said. So very few people other than you even bothered with that. *shakes head*

Date: 2003-12-11 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Ah yes, that. I knew PPT had spyware the minute I cleaned out my computer and got a "dingdingding! SPYWARE, Bad shit family Robinson!" alert when I went there. I haven't gone since. I've got several pop up blockers (my google bar and my firewall) but... eh. For my NP help I like the other sites.

Anon is def. not Shroomlah. Shroomie's got an IQ at least 50 points higher, and that's giving the anon a lot of credit.

The idea that it was because of PPT that Neopets officialized the forgotten pets is idiocy when Neocolours exists. Ha. :D

And that's my two cents on the matter. The thread did make for an interesting read though.

Date: 2003-12-11 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldnia.livejournal.com
Wheee! I would much rather discuss this rationally with people, but eventually when they are throwing silly insults at you, you, or at least I, cant help throwing right back.

Yeah, yeah I know, it is silly and doesnt add to the discussion, but it is SO much fun *giggles*

PPT trolls cant address the immediate claims because most of what Cyn posted they had NO idea about. Im guessing she caught them with their pants down so to speak, and their silly little attempts at insults and beating around old arguments is the best that they can come up with *grin*

Date: 2003-12-10 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
*claps*

What I find funny is that all of the posters on the PPT side (save for a small few) have been unable to GET TO THE POINT. They seem to be VERY uninformed, and they're flamers. Not GOOD flamers, suckyfucky ones! Arrr!

Date: 2003-12-10 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Shoomlah is/was a neopets artist, quite a coincidence...

Date: 2003-12-10 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiana.livejournal.com
www.soup-faerie.com =)

*glomp* I appreciate you taking the time to think out your reply in what I had said. So very few people other than you even bothered with that. *shakes head*

Date: 2003-12-11 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Ah yes, that. I knew PPT had spyware the minute I cleaned out my computer and got a "dingdingding! SPYWARE, Bad shit family Robinson!" alert when I went there. I haven't gone since. I've got several pop up blockers (my google bar and my firewall) but... eh. For my NP help I like the other sites.

Anon is def. not Shroomlah. Shroomie's got an IQ at least 50 points higher, and that's giving the anon a lot of credit.

The idea that it was because of PPT that Neopets officialized the forgotten pets is idiocy when Neocolours exists. Ha. :D

And that's my two cents on the matter. The thread did make for an interesting read though.

Date: 2003-12-11 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldnia.livejournal.com
Wheee! I would much rather discuss this rationally with people, but eventually when they are throwing silly insults at you, you, or at least I, cant help throwing right back.

Yeah, yeah I know, it is silly and doesnt add to the discussion, but it is SO much fun *giggles*

PPT trolls cant address the immediate claims because most of what Cyn posted they had NO idea about. Im guessing she caught them with their pants down so to speak, and their silly little attempts at insults and beating around old arguments is the best that they can come up with *grin*

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