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Gifted kids are supposed to get IEPs. Kids with behavioural problems are supposed to get IEPs. Kids with learning disabilites are supposed to get IEPs. Really, as near as I can tell, any kid in any sort of special program is supposed to get an IEP.

Now you know. This has been a public service announcement.

If I ever get off my ass and find it, I'll post interesting tidbits from my IEP, but don't hold your breath.

Date: 2005-03-15 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
What's an IEP?

Date: 2005-03-15 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
I could've used something like that! (I don't know which is worse, education of gifted children, or education of special needs children in Hungary. I know quite a bit about both, and... *sigh*)

Date: 2005-03-15 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticess.livejournal.com
Yes both gifted kids and kids with issues are supposed to have IEP's not all do. Alot of people with gifted kids are totally unaware of the process. Also IEP's are a fairly recient invention here where I am. Recient as in they've probably only been around maybe 20 yrs. I never had an IEP. Even though I'm in school as a special needs and gifted student again I have no IEP. I may in tech school later. My sons had IEP's even in preschool as he's special needs and my nephew and neice have had them for gifted kids. The school officials may suggest an IEP these days if a kid gets skipped up a grade but years ago they didn't do it. Though they would have a meeting with parents offering to give the child more challanging material than their peers. Oh and my daughter had an IEP(but only after cancer treatment because it caused visual and motor imparement and LD)

So anyways... are you talking about a current IEP for school or one of your prior ones? If you have one at all they should review every 3-6 months and have a year start and ending meeting. At least that is the experience with my sons IEP's. I have no personal experience because as mentioned I've never had one.(it wasn't done in the 70s and 80s. Also doesn't seem to be done for correspondence school)

Date: 2005-03-15 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] push-the-limits.livejournal.com
According to this post, Lucas should be able to get an IEP.
I've been fighting with the school system to get him one, but it's like pulling teeth.

In short, they suck.

Date: 2005-03-15 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
The problem in England is often that neither end is helped enough. Brighter kids aren't stretched, poorer kids aren't helped. The emphasis is put on those on the C/D border to try and get them up to Cs.

Date: 2005-03-15 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
A gifted child without support can attempt suicide in the 3rd grade. For the first time.

A gifted child without support can run away from home at 13, to be propositioned by pimps.

A gifted child can develop signs, at least, of eating disorders for a need to be perfect and control everything.

A gifted child can be bored shitless, not go to class, and wind up dropping out, doing worse than a 'regular' kid.

This is why I watch my daughter like I hawk. I don't want her turning out, like, well, ME.

They can suffer in their own way, and in a way it's because people think they shouldn't suffer because they have the world at their feet, supposedly. :/

Date: 2005-03-15 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I never had an IEP for being gifted. Although my school had tracking and a fairly large number of gifted students. So, being gifted wasn't really that individual.

Gifted kids are at higher risk for dropping out of school than average kids, because school is often less useful for them and they're smart enough to recognize that. There are a lot of risks for gifted kids. As to which is worse though, it'll probably vary from school to school. It can turn pretty bad for either side.

Date: 2005-03-15 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
Gifted kids can be singled out and bullied just as bad as Aspie kids.

Date: 2005-03-15 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticess.livejournal.com
No. I'm having muscle problems. My myotonia went wacky in my upper body. Also I either have food poisioning or the flu add on someone attacked my website.(They spammed a memorial book and also tried other things)

Date: 2005-03-15 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
What's an IEP?

Date: 2005-03-15 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
I could've used something like that! (I don't know which is worse, education of gifted children, or education of special needs children in Hungary. I know quite a bit about both, and... *sigh*)

Date: 2005-03-15 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticess.livejournal.com
Yes both gifted kids and kids with issues are supposed to have IEP's not all do. Alot of people with gifted kids are totally unaware of the process. Also IEP's are a fairly recient invention here where I am. Recient as in they've probably only been around maybe 20 yrs. I never had an IEP. Even though I'm in school as a special needs and gifted student again I have no IEP. I may in tech school later. My sons had IEP's even in preschool as he's special needs and my nephew and neice have had them for gifted kids. The school officials may suggest an IEP these days if a kid gets skipped up a grade but years ago they didn't do it. Though they would have a meeting with parents offering to give the child more challanging material than their peers. Oh and my daughter had an IEP(but only after cancer treatment because it caused visual and motor imparement and LD)

So anyways... are you talking about a current IEP for school or one of your prior ones? If you have one at all they should review every 3-6 months and have a year start and ending meeting. At least that is the experience with my sons IEP's. I have no personal experience because as mentioned I've never had one.(it wasn't done in the 70s and 80s. Also doesn't seem to be done for correspondence school)

Date: 2005-03-15 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] push-the-limits.livejournal.com
According to this post, Lucas should be able to get an IEP.
I've been fighting with the school system to get him one, but it's like pulling teeth.

In short, they suck.

Date: 2005-03-15 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eofs.livejournal.com
The problem in England is often that neither end is helped enough. Brighter kids aren't stretched, poorer kids aren't helped. The emphasis is put on those on the C/D border to try and get them up to Cs.

Date: 2005-03-15 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
A gifted child without support can attempt suicide in the 3rd grade. For the first time.

A gifted child without support can run away from home at 13, to be propositioned by pimps.

A gifted child can develop signs, at least, of eating disorders for a need to be perfect and control everything.

A gifted child can be bored shitless, not go to class, and wind up dropping out, doing worse than a 'regular' kid.

This is why I watch my daughter like I hawk. I don't want her turning out, like, well, ME.

They can suffer in their own way, and in a way it's because people think they shouldn't suffer because they have the world at their feet, supposedly. :/

Date: 2005-03-15 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I never had an IEP for being gifted. Although my school had tracking and a fairly large number of gifted students. So, being gifted wasn't really that individual.

Gifted kids are at higher risk for dropping out of school than average kids, because school is often less useful for them and they're smart enough to recognize that. There are a lot of risks for gifted kids. As to which is worse though, it'll probably vary from school to school. It can turn pretty bad for either side.

Date: 2005-03-15 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prezzey.livejournal.com
Gifted kids can be singled out and bullied just as bad as Aspie kids.

Date: 2005-03-15 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticess.livejournal.com
No. I'm having muscle problems. My myotonia went wacky in my upper body. Also I either have food poisioning or the flu add on someone attacked my website.(They spammed a memorial book and also tried other things)

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