Question.

Dec. 31st, 2004 04:31 am
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I don't know that much about fandom, but I'm starting to notice something.

Every other fanfic I see has Draco as being troubled, or nice, or an old softie, or something. People love Draco.

But Dudley, he never gets any of this. He's never even *mentioned*, much less cooed over.

Why is this? Where's the Dudley love? Poor Dudley. HE's never going to be seen as misguided. HE gets no chance to free himself from the shackles of the Dursley's "parenting". He's never even going to apply himself and make everybody realize that he's really been underachieving, not stupid.

Poor, poor Dudley.
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Date: 2004-12-31 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
[in fan-girl voice] But he's fat!!!!11!!!111

I actually think that this is why he doesent get redeemed. The people who write fan-fiction want "pretty" people, not an overweight, childish, mommas-boy. Draco may be mean but atleast he's cute in the movies, you know...

Date: 2004-12-31 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
No one likes the loser who sits around, plays video games and masturbates 10+ times a day. Believe me, I dated one, and they get boring after about 5 minutes.

(Seriously... Come to think of it, Dudley is very similar to Matt...)

Date: 2004-12-31 01:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Dudley's a muggle. Muggle's aren't interesting.

Neville's not so much fat in the last movie as he is bulky. He could take on Crabbe and Goyle. In the books, he's sweet and oh so angsty.

Draco loks like Tom Felton. Fangirls also like evil, but it has to be sexy evil. Voldemort has lots mroe fans than Umbridge, for instance, despite being a mass murdering bastard.

Date: 2004-12-31 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
I think that Dudley is big but it's more muscels now so I would assume that he looks quite nice now, yes. But I think that people still have the impression from the four books before that. Oh, and Neville, yes... dident think of that. But he's on the good side, clumsy in a cute way and very nice. Dudley is mean and cause he's not "attractive" people don't care much for his redemption. I also think it matters that he's just in the books in the beginning. He's never involved in the adventures in Hogwart's.

Date: 2004-12-31 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-chaos-by-699.livejournal.com
It's because the actor who plays Draco is better looking.

I'm convinced that's actually all it is. Incidentally, I hate Draco and find Dudley to be mostly pathetic.

Date: 2004-12-31 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
I don't like Dudley, but I completly agree with the last bit. He know's nothing about the world, all he has is his "friends" who I think only "like's" him cause they are afraid not to, and his parents who baby him and never let's him try thing's for himself. In his mind he has never failed at anything, cause his parent's always sais his doing things right so when he has to do thing's on his own, he wont cope well with failure.

Date: 2004-12-31 03:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deceptica
I remember a [livejournal.com profile] pottersues feature that mentioned Dudley getting "sexed up" over the summer. But he didn't play a major role there either, as far as I remember.

Date: 2004-12-31 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semirose.livejournal.com
AHH! Dudley love!!! Now I so need a Dudley icon.

When I finish my fic that was supposed to be really short and is turning out to be really long but there's nothing I can do about it because the characters are really demanding, I promise I'll show it to you. It's all about Harry and Dudley's relationship and how they make up (tastefully, not "OMG after 16 years of hate I lyke totally love you man") and then their lovely lives afterwards. It was seriously supposed to be an angsty one shot, but it expolded.

hmm, I have a bunch of great Dudley stories, but I think I'm going to complile them into a list and post it at my LJ.

Date: 2004-12-31 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mortaine.livejournal.com
I suspect this will change after the next book.

If anyone hasn't realized who the half-blood prince is, given the clues in Book 5, I'll be stunned.

Date: 2004-12-31 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deathchibi.livejournal.com
You know, I've always wondered about that. Isn't Voldemort supposed to be all hideous? I'm not a huge HP person (Call me a fan-lite.), but Snape kept getting described as kinda greasy and stuff...

Date: 2004-12-31 04:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adiva_calandia
*blink blink* Dudley as the HBP? Sorry, can't see it. As for Dudders in general -- I just sort of ignore him. As was pointed out earlier, he really only appears in the first part of each book. Malfoy, on the other hand, is a major antagonist in every book. I really don't like Redeemed!Draco fics. Face it, people -- He's a nasty little vindictive biatch. I reeeeally doubt that his vindictiveness stems from his homosexual longings for Harry (Can you say Othello/Iago? Heh heh heh . . .).

Date: 2005-01-02 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bridgetester.livejournal.com
misguided!Dudley does exist (http://www.sugarquill.net/read.php?storyid=588&chapno=1). There are quite a few examples of mean!Dudley in the rest of The Sugar Quill, so he's not completely ignored.

Date: 2005-01-03 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkhard.livejournal.com
But Othello/Iago is totally canon. *confused look*

Date: 2005-01-03 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adiva_calandia
True. . . hmm. I guess my point is, People don't try to redeem Iago. Maybe Malfoy is secretly pining for Harry, but that doesn't mean that he's also got a heart of gold. Make sense? Or am I just arguing myself in circles? I do that a lot.

Date: 2004-12-31 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katschakai.livejournal.com
[in fan-girl voice] But he's fat!!!!11!!!111

I actually think that this is why he doesent get redeemed. The people who write fan-fiction want "pretty" people, not an overweight, childish, mommas-boy. Draco may be mean but atleast he's cute in the movies, you know...

Date: 2004-12-31 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
No one likes the loser who sits around, plays video games and masturbates 10+ times a day. Believe me, I dated one, and they get boring after about 5 minutes.

(Seriously... Come to think of it, Dudley is very similar to Matt...)
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