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[personal profile] conuly
Though I suppose it might save a life, in this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome

If your fictional character has been subsisting for a lengthy time on inadequate amounts of gruel, bread, and water - including some periods of just water - then even though they probably want to gorge themselves once freed from starvation it's best if they limit themselves at first, just until their body reacclimates.

If the person they're staying with has also endured periods of hunger or is a doctor then that person might know that and keep them from making themself gravely ill, or otherwise they might go "You poor thing!" and try to fatten them up right away, but at any rate, you might as well milk the situation for drama because if they straightaway down a five course dinner and suffer no ill effects some of us are going to raise an eyebrow.

I can tell you exactly where I first read about this, by the way - it was in the novel Just a Little Bit Lost, where the two get rescued from their accidental week in the woods and immediately are put on a diet of watered down gruel. Which is what they'd been eating in the woods, because they managed to get separated from their class trip carrying all the oatmeal, so our protagonist thought it was funny, but the nurses hastened to explain that you have to start slowly when you've been hungry even if it was just for a relatively short time.

Date: 2023-02-10 03:19 pm (UTC)
elayna: (Save the Earth Chocolate)
From: [personal profile] elayna
Robert Heinlein and Alan Dean Foster both wrote stories where someone who hasn’t been eating well is rescued by someone who feeds them a full meal and then they promptly throw up.

Date: 2023-02-10 07:43 pm (UTC)
elayna: (Doctor Who Books!)
From: [personal profile] elayna
I don't even remember which books it was, and they were probably written at least a decade or two apart, but I read them fairly close together, so they stuck in my brain. I always thought Foster was ripping off Heinlein a bit, though I suppose it's a natural thing to include. It's not like Heinlein had the trademark on having food deprived characters or using logical reactions.

Date: 2023-02-11 03:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brokenallbroken
ADF wrote the novelization of the original Star Wars movie (which is really good considering what [who] he was working with), and I maintain Splinter of the Mind's Eye is better than half the old EU. I liked the first few books of the Flinx and Spellsinger series, but I was in my early teens, so I can't vouch for my taste.

Date: 2023-02-10 03:56 pm (UTC)
sabotabby: (doom doom doom)
From: [personal profile] sabotabby
I know about this because of the Holocaust. Apparently many people survived the camps only to die shortly after liberation because of this.

Date: 2023-02-10 05:40 pm (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
I know about this because of the Holocaust. Apparently many people survived the camps only to die shortly after liberation because of this

Yes, this is how I learned about it as well.

Date: 2023-02-10 08:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frandroid
HAAAAAA

Date: 2023-02-10 09:33 pm (UTC)
gingicat: woman in a green dress and cloak holding a rose, looking up at snow falling down on her (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
Thankfully the Holocaust survivor I learned this from was nursed back to health with soup after initial gorging.

Date: 2023-02-11 03:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hilarita
I read something recently about this - there was a research program in America on how to re-feed starving people, I think because of some issues they'd encountered early on with this. The effects of starvation on some of the participants were pretty horrific (they were volunteers), but they did IIRC come up with some improved methodologies for what to do with starving people.

Date: 2023-02-13 06:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vvalkyri
Specifically fortified peanut butter at least for children

Date: 2023-02-10 09:31 pm (UTC)
gingicat: woman in a green dress and cloak holding a rose, looking up at snow falling down on her (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
I learned that from a Hebrew school teacher who had escaped from a concentration camp with a friend and found her way to the home of a kind stranger in Switzerland.

Date: 2023-02-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] neotoma
I know about this because of the Minnesota Starvation Experiment which was conducted in the USA during WW2 specifically to develop safe re-feeding strategies.

Date: 2023-02-11 12:28 am (UTC)
moon_custafer: neon cat mask (Default)
From: [personal profile] moon_custafer
Same here.

Date: 2023-02-11 06:58 pm (UTC)
thewayne: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thewayne
Ditto. A very grim program, but it saved a lot of lives.

Date: 2023-02-11 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
I'll file that away in my brain in case it ever becomes relevant to a story. Thank you.
Edited Date: 2023-02-11 04:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-02-11 07:59 pm (UTC)
the_siobhan: It means, "to rot" (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_siobhan
True story, when I had adenomyosis, I would frequently go for a full week without eating. When I was having an attack that meant days of being too out of it with pain to eat, followed by several days of recovering from the effects of the opiates that were the only thing that could touch it.

Then I would try to eat something and my bodywould have no idea what to do with it. It would sit in my stomach like a brick, and my stomach would end up being bloated and tight and painful for days.

A friend made a recommendation that worked like a charm, he said make lemonade as strong as I could stand it, put as much maple syrup or honey in it as I could, and just sip on that all day. Worked like a charm, by the end of the day I would actually be hungry and my stomach would have remembered how digestion works.

Date: 2023-02-11 08:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zhelana
Yeah, I first heard of that with a professor talking about how many holocaust victims actually died of a ruptured stomach when allied soldiers liberated the camps and so many soldiers just handed over whole days' worth of food to these people, trying to do the right thing.

So that's horrifying.

Date: 2023-02-12 02:48 am (UTC)
zhelana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zhelana

Of course you would, because you are not a monster. And yet!

Date: 2023-02-12 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chez_jae
I also hate when someone comes out of a coma and is immediately up and walking and ready to hit the road running. Guh.

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