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Sep. 12th, 2004 12:40 am
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What does USS stand for? I know that HMS means Pronoun Majesty's Ship (at least, I think it does), but USS? It might mean United States, but then why would Federation Starships be USS? Yes, I know, Terran culture is really just American culture with "evolved values", but.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluoridated.livejournal.com
acronymfinder thinks it's United States Ship, and I have NO IDEA about the starship thing. Maybe the show creator people didn't care/know?

Date: 2004-09-11 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moroveus.livejournal.com
United States Ship

Creative, no? What I want to know is...what does NCC stand for? As in NCC-1701.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia (yes, I have two of these around, actually :-P): "Identifying prefix used as part of the names of Federation starships, as in U.S.S. Enterprise. Oddly enough, there is still some question as to what U.S.S. actually stands for. Captains Pike and Kirk identified the Enterprise as a United Space Ship, but it was also called a United Star Ship in other episodes. We assume that ships with an S.S. prefix are usually vessels of Federation registry, but not part of the Federation starfleet.

As for NCC, it basically says it doesn't stand for anything and was arbitrarily picked (and added to) based on 20th-century aircraft registration (NC meaning it was registered in the U.S. and is a civil/non-military aircraft, and the extra C being added on because it looked cooler that way).

Date: 2004-09-11 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
::snicker:: Well, I know there are people far crazier than I am in the ST fandom, but *most* of the people I know would think I was crazy for having one at all. :-P

Date: 2004-09-12 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
yeah, but con? you sister married the guy who wore the starship uniform for a year. ^_^

Date: 2004-09-11 10:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mephron
As far as NCC is concerned, there's a line in one of the older Star Trek bibles that says it stands for 'Naval Construction Contract'.

USS is of uncertain province.

Date: 2004-09-11 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
Hrm. What do you mean by "older"? My ST Encyclopedia is actually a few years old, at least. Heeh. But yeah, it didn't say much useful about NCC except claiming that it didn't actually stand for anything.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mephron
"The Story OF Star Trek', dated 1968.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
Gotcha. ;-)

E2 to the Res-Q

Date: 2004-09-11 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griphus.livejournal.com
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=uss

Date: 2004-09-11 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rachelkachel
This makes me think of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, with the ships GSS Daring, GSS Audacity, and GSS Suicidal Insanity.

Yeah.

Date: 2004-09-12 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squittycat.livejournal.com
As has been said, there is no official answer as to what U.S.S. stands for in Star Trek. It was probably chosen because it is a familiar US naval prefix, and (i think it was) Matt Jeffries (but it could have been Roddenberry) wanted to have naval metaphor in the show to make it more accessible to your average viewer.

Someone is quoted as saying, and I am blanking out on who, that NCC was chosen because NC is a standard prefix in registry numbers for aircraft, and they put in the extra C to make it look like a combination of NC and СССР, as in the future all earth people are friends and such. Pay no attention to the fact that the Сs in СССР are actally Ses. Maybe it should be NCС instead.

(That probably won't make a lot of sense unless your computer for some reason displays Cyrillic characters in a different font from Latin ones.)

Date: 2004-09-11 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluoridated.livejournal.com
acronymfinder thinks it's United States Ship, and I have NO IDEA about the starship thing. Maybe the show creator people didn't care/know?

Date: 2004-09-11 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moroveus.livejournal.com
United States Ship

Creative, no? What I want to know is...what does NCC stand for? As in NCC-1701.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia (yes, I have two of these around, actually :-P): "Identifying prefix used as part of the names of Federation starships, as in U.S.S. Enterprise. Oddly enough, there is still some question as to what U.S.S. actually stands for. Captains Pike and Kirk identified the Enterprise as a United Space Ship, but it was also called a United Star Ship in other episodes. We assume that ships with an S.S. prefix are usually vessels of Federation registry, but not part of the Federation starfleet.

As for NCC, it basically says it doesn't stand for anything and was arbitrarily picked (and added to) based on 20th-century aircraft registration (NC meaning it was registered in the U.S. and is a civil/non-military aircraft, and the extra C being added on because it looked cooler that way).

Date: 2004-09-11 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
::snicker:: Well, I know there are people far crazier than I am in the ST fandom, but *most* of the people I know would think I was crazy for having one at all. :-P

Date: 2004-09-12 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziey.livejournal.com
yeah, but con? you sister married the guy who wore the starship uniform for a year. ^_^

Date: 2004-09-11 10:18 pm (UTC)
mephron: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mephron
As far as NCC is concerned, there's a line in one of the older Star Trek bibles that says it stands for 'Naval Construction Contract'.

USS is of uncertain province.

Date: 2004-09-11 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
Hrm. What do you mean by "older"? My ST Encyclopedia is actually a few years old, at least. Heeh. But yeah, it didn't say much useful about NCC except claiming that it didn't actually stand for anything.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:00 pm (UTC)
mephron: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mephron
"The Story OF Star Trek', dated 1968.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyshrew.livejournal.com
Gotcha. ;-)

E2 to the Res-Q

Date: 2004-09-11 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] griphus.livejournal.com
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=uss

Date: 2004-09-11 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rachelkachel
This makes me think of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, with the ships GSS Daring, GSS Audacity, and GSS Suicidal Insanity.

Yeah.

Date: 2004-09-12 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squittycat.livejournal.com
As has been said, there is no official answer as to what U.S.S. stands for in Star Trek. It was probably chosen because it is a familiar US naval prefix, and (i think it was) Matt Jeffries (but it could have been Roddenberry) wanted to have naval metaphor in the show to make it more accessible to your average viewer.

Someone is quoted as saying, and I am blanking out on who, that NCC was chosen because NC is a standard prefix in registry numbers for aircraft, and they put in the extra C to make it look like a combination of NC and СССР, as in the future all earth people are friends and such. Pay no attention to the fact that the Сs in СССР are actally Ses. Maybe it should be NCС instead.

(That probably won't make a lot of sense unless your computer for some reason displays Cyrillic characters in a different font from Latin ones.)

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